Electricity rates in Ontario to rise again May 1

lone wolf

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It's when the furnace fan kicking in doubles your consumption you know you're scrimping all you can and you're still going to have to walk away from the place because income won't go up to meet cost of living.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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How much electricity use these days is REALLY necessary?

Define necessary. Certainly if you are posting on here you obviously view your computer as necessary. Presumably you want to do that in light as well. Do you like to sweat in the summer or freeze in the winter?
 

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just in time for the longer summer days.

wynneing!


Time-of-use electricity prices will jump half-a-cent to 18 cents a kilowatt hour for peak periods, from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. weekdays, starting May 1.

The rates are up slightly less for mid-peak periods -- between 7 and 11 a.m. and 5 to 7 p.m. -- at 13.2 cents a kwh.

Off peak rates -- in effect from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. and all day weekends and holidays -- are up less than half a cent to 7.7 cents a kwh.

The Ontario Energy Board estimates the changes will add about $3.13 a month to the electricity line on the average monthly hydro bill for a household using 750 kwh a month.

The board sets rates every six months, and adjusts the hours for peak and off-peak periods, with changes every May 1 and Nov. 1.


Electricity rates in Ontario to rise again May 1 | CP24.com

It's either that or taxes subsidize them.

I prefer user-pay.
 

taxslave

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Yikes! Stumbled across this: Ontario Wind Turbines | Ontario has the most expensive electricity in North America

On November 1, 2015, rates increased by 8.7%.
On January 1, 2016, rates increased by another 10%.
Since 2010, Ontario’s electricity prices have increased by 88%.

"4% of our power is from wind energy, yet it costs us 20% of our electrical bill."

That and taxes is a large part of the reason industry left the province.

Well they're promising a revenue neutral carbon pricing scheme, which is something the BC Liberals have already implemented in their successful carbon tax model.


Ontario PC Party Head: A "Sensible" Carbon Price Is In The Offing

THe BC one is a tax scam to buy leftard votes. And it worked.Ontario's government already has the retard vote so they don't have to bother with another scam tax.
 

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Try living without it.


Most people could probably live quite well without 60% it! :)

It always amuses me when there is a discussion of power use some imbecile has to bring up the use of the computer. If you really want to attack power usage consider the electric range, the toaster, the clothes dryer, the hot water heater, the hot tub, the block heater on your vehicle, the washing machine, the air conditioner. What also baffles me is the number of people I see sitting in the house in winter wearing a T-shirt while the heat is cranked up. Wearing a wool shirt or sweater is much more economical. :) :)
 
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My wife has steam coming out of her ears!!

They are putting up Hydro rates because conservation efforts have been so successful that their revenues are down!! She makes a point if doing dishes, laundry at off peak hours to save a bit of money AND BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT TO CONSERVE!

Anyway, I'm shaking my head at the marketing genius that becomes up with "We're not selling enough. Let's put our prices up." He may even be the same microsephallic pea brain that decided to put a gas fired generating plant (that obviously wasn't needed) 200 yards from a neighbourhood with 700 plus houses in it that are worth multiple millions of dollars ... about the third, fourth most expensive neighbourhood in Canada.

Ontario Hydro and all of it's fractals ... publically funded incompetence on a massive scale.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Most people could probably live quite well without 60% it! :)

It always amuses me when there is a discussion of power use some imbecile has to bring up the use of the computer. If you really want to attack power usage consider the electric range, the toaster, the clothes dryer, the hot water heater, the hot tub, the block heater on your vehicle, the washing machine, the air conditioner. What also baffles me is the number of people I see sitting in the house in winter wearing a T-shirt while the heat is cranked up. Wearing a wool shirt or sweater is much more economical. :) :)

The computer is a luxury you can live without before hot water, means of cooking, means of home heating or cooling. And one should not have to wear a parka in ones house to feel comfortable. But to suggest anybody could or should live without it (power) is the suggestion of an idiot ... particularly if said idiot is obviously not practicing what he is preaching.
 

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The computer is a luxury you can live without before hot water, means of cooking, means of home heating or cooling. And one should not have to wear a parka in ones house to feel comfortable. But to suggest anybody could or should live without it (power) is the suggestion of an idiot ... particularly if said idiot is obviously not practicing what he is preaching.


Who said without power? Who recommended wearing a parka in the house? The few cents I spend a month on power for the computer is more than repaid just by the number of bank transactions that save me burning gas having to go to the bank or time spent tied up on the phone.
 

mentalfloss

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Guys, this last increase is entirely because of a private company needing profit.

And it's only $3 a month.

How cheap are you guys?


And why am I the one favouring a private entity here when you guys are the right wingers lol


Basically, the solution to the problem that you guys want is to have a carbon pricing model because then the rates will actually change to benefit consumers with lower usage.
 

petros

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All business prefer certainty despite higher costs.

Certainty they'll skip hiring new employees or grow their businesses?

Guys, this last increase is entirely because of a private company needing profit.

And it's only $3 a month.

How cheap are you guys?


And why am I the one favouring a private entity here when you guys are the right wingers lol


Basically, the solution to the problem that you guys want is to have a carbon pricing model because then the rates will actually change to benefit consumers with lower usage.

$3 to shmucks or $3 to business?
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Guys, this last increase is entirely because of a private company needing profit.

And it's only $3 a month.

How cheap are you guys?


And why am I the one favouring a private entity here when you guys are the right wingers lol

You mean the private entity which used to be in the public hands until it was sold off to make the current government's deficit seem less shocking?

Basically, the solution to the problem that you guys want is to have a carbon pricing model because then the rates will actually change to benefit consumers with lower usage.

LOL You really are a few cards short of a deck aren't you!
 

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What a surprise :lol:

Use less, electricity, so that we can charge you the same for less. Environmentalist rejoice everywhere!!!
 

darkbeaver

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Metered people are pathetic.make your own fool, all you need is trees

If you pooled next months power bills and bought some armor you could crush your local utilities. no more bills! did you get an education? why do I always have to explain things to you?
 

mentalfloss

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You mean the private entity which used to be in the public hands until it was sold off to make the current government's deficit seem less shocking?

Yes, that's the one.

The Liberals still retain some right wing measures and selling off Hydro One is certainly an example of that.

For now, the quantum of additional cost is still nothing to get aggravated over but yes, the private sector depends on profit so prices will go up.

The reason for carbon pricing is to legitimately incentivise conserving but this is what you get when there is no cap on emissions.