Education should be treated like Healthcare

darkbeaver

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Baloney, culture trumps education all the time.
I mean seriously, stereotypes are great for having that feel good culture of yours but you really need to broaden your mind ...just a tad.

An educated culture best provides for national continuation. Education preceeds culture, so, no culture does not trump education at any time. Thankyou for the mental advice.
 

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Baloney, culture trumps education all the time.



I mean seriously, stereotypes are great for having that feel good culture of yours but you really need to broaden your mind ...just a tad.

Sez a "son of liberty". Free speech only applies to dross like you, eh "son"?


"Sons of liberty" what a crock.
 
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darkbeaver

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Healthcare in Canada is subsidized and largely acts as the marketers of pharmsuetical giants, venders of poison concoctions and establishment science. Education was already bad or health would be a lot more effective in serving the patient rather than the industry.
Both the student and the patient are served poorly in the Canadian system. I think it just symtomatic of corrupt western politics and professionals.
 

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Healthcare in Canada is subsidized and largely acts as the marketers of pharmsuetical giants, venders of poison concoctions and establishment science. Education was already bad or health would be a lot more effective in serving the patient rather than the industry.
Both the student and the patient are served poorly in the Canadian system. I think it just symtomatic of corrupt western politics and professionals.

If people simply realized what a doctor's work really is, you would realize he's really only good at saving your life when your dieing. If you go see him for anything else. You only have your own stupidity to blame.

As for the rest of your rant. Yes stupid ignorant people are getting screwed, and they only have themselves to blame.

I have no pity for people who sit on their behind watching TV most of their lives instead of learning how the world works.

Instead of acting like a victim your whole life, why don't you grow up and assum yourself Darkbeaver?

I'm tired of reading you blame your pathetic life on everyone else but your own self.

If you concentrated a little more on things that you control like your own education, maybe you wouldn't have to blame everyone else for your own pathetic existence.
 

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My some are positive about healthcare. Maybe some Doctors can't help you but mined
does a fine job.There is a way to do that or perhaps a few ways to do that.
First we need to stop selling our resources to companies that should be paying at least
ten time more for mineral rights in the ground. Two we should require processing of all
raw material. Three do not supply any country with minerals or energy that compete with
us directly for export markets.

University students who are successful would pay for one year only. Here is how. To
orient students the first term of the first year would not be held against them if the other
outcomes had higher marks let them settle in.

They would get credit based on marks if they performed well they would not be required
to pay for the remaining years adjudicated one year at a time.

When they graduate the performance portfolio would determine what is owing and that
could be paid in many ways. They could work for three wages for a prescribed time to
make up any differences in performance or they could work in specific areas where people
are needed Doctors for example could practice in more remote locations therefore avoiding
any cost at all for a prescribed number of years. I am sure others have ideas on what we
might do to achieve lower costs for education. This is only one idea lets hear what other ideas
are out there.
 

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As the Wall Street Journal pointed out in a prominent editorial on Wednesday, our health-care system isn’t working. Citing the Fraser Institute, it showed its readers that a single-payer system leads to impossible delays, and caused 63,500 Canadians to seek health care outside Canada last year, as more than a million Canadians are now awaiting doctor-recommended treatment, and that there is a 21-week average delay between referral by a general practitioner and specialist treatment. “The lesson,” the editorial noted, “is that Canada hasn’t repealed the basic law of economics that scarce resources must be rationed by price or time… Free treatment isn’t much good if it’s not available.” excerpted from Conrad Black in the NP
 

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For me the main concern is giving people from all walks of life the opportunity to really excel.

50 years ago I might agree that this shouldn't be a significant concern but when you have applicants limited to those that are wealthy to begin with, you are cutting out people who are legitimately talented and can strengthen the economy.
Then maybe we should quit charging foreign students more to attend our universities. You see, for the most part our universities are for-profit institutions. Because foreign students pay more to attend, spots for actual Canadian students are limited even if they have the grades.
One strange phenomenon is our medical schools. Right now there are more Canadians studying medicine abroad than in Canada because our medical schools are filled with foreign students. This is completely f*cked because those Canadians being educated abroad aren't certified to practice medicine here. So our best and brightest would-be doctors end up practicing medicine elsewhere while our medical schools are filled with foreigners simply because they have to pay more to attend than Canadians do.

Although I do agree that most Liberal Arts courses should be free. After all, nobody should have to pay good money for absolute garbage.
 

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I don't mind the one payer so much as the one supplier. Our hospitals are a bureaucratic nightmare. Although insurance companies, WorkSafe, and large employers do bypass the system for some things because it is worse than retarded for a worker to be off with an injury and having to wait in line with retired, non workers, etc for treatment.
Can you imagine the uproar if a major sports star had to wait with the great unwashed to get surgery?
 

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Education should be free. If you want to make money you charge foreign students way more. Which is exactly what we do - except we still charge our own kids enough so that they have to go deeply in debt.
 

taxslave

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Education should be free. If you want to make money you charge foreign students way more. Which is exactly what we do - except we still charge our own kids enough so that they have to go deeply in debt.

How, exactly do you intend to have free education? Do you really think that the greedy teachers union will not expect exhorbabant paycheques?
 

Danbones

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Yes, what will teachers do?
:)
I mean if you can't do, teach - if you can't teach, there is always welfare

They can ask someone with grade three how to fill out the forms and what the right answers are.
 

Danbones

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Yes, funny that...

The good news is that robots will soon be taking over...
:)
LOL...if you can program one to each you, you will be fine! Also the nice thing about robots is retiring to a robot just means getting a new pair of shoes.
 

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As the Wall Street Journal pointed out in a prominent editorial on Wednesday, our health-care system isn’t working. Citing the Fraser Institute, it showed its readers that a single-payer system leads to impossible delays, and caused 63,500 Canadians to seek health care outside Canada last year, as more than a million Canadians are now awaiting doctor-recommended treatment, and that there is a 21-week average delay between referral by a general practitioner and specialist treatment. “The lesson,” the editorial noted, “is that Canada hasn’t repealed the basic law of economics that scarce resources must be rationed by price or time… Free treatment isn’t much good if it’s not available.” excerpted from Conrad Black in the NP



Well, I find that our system works well and promptly for me and my family.


I don't listen to Conrad Black about anything.

Education should be free.



If you can learn to use the google, you can learn almost anything.
 

petros

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Yes, funny that...

The good news is that robots will soon be taking over...
:)
LOL...if you can program one to each you, you will be fine! Also the nice thing about robots is retiring to a robot just means getting a new pair of shoes.
That would be great. Too many moonbat Profs using organic pit stick that doesn't work.