Education in America continues to decline...middle class and poor cant afford college to further their education and college tuitions continue to escalate.. Why cant college cost $15,000.00 a year?? Why does it cost $30,000.00 or more !!! For the betterment of the country, the government should help solve this disaster. Why does a professor need to make $150,000 ? How bout making a $100,000.00 and having that "warm feeling" of satisfaction of helping humanity,,College tuition is not ever an issue concerning the mountung costs..Soon only the wealthy and "lower taxed" rich Republicans will be going on to further education...
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The price of education in America continues to rise, yet the quality keeps going down. Maybe it is time to break the teachers unions and make teachers actually have to compete with each other for jobs and raises.
K-12 education in public schools in America has failed many students and left them unprepared for college and for competition from the Chinese and others. Who controls K-12 public school education in America? Answer that question and you know who is responsible for dumbing down the students. These kids are screwed. They can't compete.
Hmm.... Who held the reins through the biggest part of anyone graduating now's time in K-12
I answered your question as best I could according to the way I undestood it. I am happy to discuss this subject with you in good faith. I didn't understand your question as phrased. Please rephrase and I'll try to answer it.
Btw, California is not part of America. It's something else. No one knows what it is exactly.
I don't have a problem with professors' salaries. For the most part those with professorships took at least six years to obtain them and probably more like eight. In terms of training and expertise they have considerably more training than most corporate executives and get paid a pittance by comparison. You are right about funding - government does need to do more, but it is difficult to find money for education when governments insist on giving unnecessary tax breaks to those making more than $250,000 a year.
Interesting comparison between American students (incl Canadian) and Asian. While there are key systemic differences between the 2, my opinion is that the most prevalent factor relates to the ideology that the individual student brings to the equation. There is little doubt in my mind that the North American student-mentality places little emphasis on the notion that an education is a direct investment in yourself and future.
Compare that to the degree of commitment and motivation that other cultures place on education and that may be a good starting point in terms of understanding the comparative difference between North American and Asian cultures.
Why bother educating kid's anymore? There won't be any jobs besides retail for them to fill anyway.
Boards of education who set curriculum and standards along with teachers and their unions for not teaching and working against the parents.
To get them into storage while the parents are busy feeding the machine.
YouTube - David Gilmour - There's no way out of here
Education in the USA is available to anyone that really wants one.
Lots of poor people get an advanced education the old fashioned way, they earn their way through college. Others go into the military, and get the GI Bill (which is very generous compared to what was available after Vietnam). Others choose to take out loans, and go deeply into debt.
I am a classic example of how a poor person can obtain an excellent education in the USA. I was forced to drop out of High School after the 1st semester of my Junior (3rd) year. My mother was a drunk, and she made me go to work so she could buy better booze. I joined the Army at the age of 16, to escape her abuse. (I had gone to 28 different schools, in 5 different states, I had been physically and sexually abused by her and most of my 7 step-fathers, etc.).
I served 10 years on active duty with the US Army (1959-1969). I got out in September 1969, and began College in September 1970, using the GI Bill ($200 a month) plus part-time employment in hospitals. I completed my Bachelor's Degree in Psychology in 6 Semesters (taking an average of 21 Semester Units each semester). I graduated with a 3.94 GPA out of 4.0.
I then wen to to graduate school, once again using the GI Bill and working Friday and Saturday nights in emergency rooms. I completed a dual Masters Program (in Rehabilitation Counseling and Clinical Psychology) in 4 semesters, and then went to work as a Rehabilitation Counselor.
I later went back to University, and completed my Ed.D in Rehabilitation Counseling. I completed my education with a total of $0.00 in debt.I got my Doctorate at the University of San Francisco, a very high quality university run by the Jesuits.
I still do NOT have a High School Diploma, by the way (I did complete both the High School and the College Level GED tests in the US Army).
ANYONE in the USA can still do this. It takes hard work, and dedication, but it can be (and many people actually do it) done if anyone actually wants an education. And you can get a VERY high quality education from virtually any public College or University, if you are willing to take the hard courses. Of course, you can also take only the easiest, and from the most liberal profs, and learn essentially nothing. It really is the students choice. I chose to take the tough classes, because I actually learned something in them. I also took classes early in the morning, late in the evening, it didn't matter so long as it was a class that I needed and that would teach me what I needed.
Oh yes, I forgot to mention why I left the Army. Lot's of you will figure that a single guy can do what they want.
My first wife walked off leaving me with our two daughters to raise as a single father. I was a single parent all through my bachelors and Masters Degree programs. I did not remarry until well after I began employment as a professional. (My daughters introduced me to my wife [she had been their teacher], and they asked me to date her, and later asked me to propose to her. She adopted them a year after we got married.) I worked with my daughters to see that they did their homework, I took them to Church activities regularly, I paid for good care when I couldn't be with them (which is why I worked a job), and my daughters turned out to be wonderful people. One is a physician and the other is a Civil Engineer, both are mothers and they raise their children the same way that I raised them.
Lots of poor people get an advanced education the old fashioned way, they earn their way through college. Others go into the military, and get the GI Bill (which is very generous compared to what was available after Vietnam). Others choose to take out loans, and go deeply into debt.
I am a classic example of how a poor person can obtain an excellent education in the USA. I was forced to drop out of High School after the 1st semester of my Junior (3rd) year. My mother was a drunk, and she made me go to work so she could buy better booze. I joined the Army at the age of 16, to escape her abuse. (I had gone to 28 different schools, in 5 different states, I had been physically and sexually abused by her and most of my 7 step-fathers, etc.).
I served 10 years on active duty with the US Army (1959-1969). I got out in September 1969, and began College in September 1970, using the GI Bill ($200 a month) plus part-time employment in hospitals. I completed my Bachelor's Degree in Psychology in 6 Semesters (taking an average of 21 Semester Units each semester). I graduated with a 3.94 GPA out of 4.0.
I then wen to to graduate school, once again using the GI Bill and working Friday and Saturday nights in emergency rooms. I completed a dual Masters Program (in Rehabilitation Counseling and Clinical Psychology) in 4 semesters, and then went to work as a Rehabilitation Counselor.
I later went back to University, and completed my Ed.D in Rehabilitation Counseling. I completed my education with a total of $0.00 in debt.I got my Doctorate at the University of San Francisco, a very high quality university run by the Jesuits.
I still do NOT have a High School Diploma, by the way (I did complete both the High School and the College Level GED tests in the US Army).
ANYONE in the USA can still do this. It takes hard work, and dedication, but it can be (and many people actually do it) done if anyone actually wants an education. And you can get a VERY high quality education from virtually any public College or University, if you are willing to take the hard courses. Of course, you can also take only the easiest, and from the most liberal profs, and learn essentially nothing. It really is the students choice. I chose to take the tough classes, because I actually learned something in them. I also took classes early in the morning, late in the evening, it didn't matter so long as it was a class that I needed and that would teach me what I needed.
Oh yes, I forgot to mention why I left the Army. Lot's of you will figure that a single guy can do what they want.
My first wife walked off leaving me with our two daughters to raise as a single father. I was a single parent all through my bachelors and Masters Degree programs. I did not remarry until well after I began employment as a professional. (My daughters introduced me to my wife [she had been their teacher], and they asked me to date her, and later asked me to propose to her. She adopted them a year after we got married.) I worked with my daughters to see that they did their homework, I took them to Church activities regularly, I paid for good care when I couldn't be with them (which is why I worked a job), and my daughters turned out to be wonderful people. One is a physician and the other is a Civil Engineer, both are mothers and they raise their children the same way that I raised them.
Stop making war on the world and there would be plenty of money to give everybody a free education.
I understand that but it's a different culture. Here what is given to people is often discarded or frittered away carelessly.