Donald Trump claims Barack Obama bombshell
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Sometimes smoke just means smoke. Mirrors may or may not be involved. Really though, what's wrong with birthers is just that they're wrong, the whole issue's a completely typical paranoid conspiracy theory. Demand proof of X, proof is provided, deny it or claim it's fake, demand further proof of X, further proof is provided, deny it or claim it's fake, demand proof of Y, proof is provided, deny it or claim it's a fake, round and round it goes.
The only birth certificate birthers will accept as legitimate is one that shows Obama was born in Kenya, so a certain Ms. Orly Taitz, self-described Queen of the Birthers, produced a forged one and you fools fell for it. Do you believe Obama is a Muslim too? That the Bush administration orchestrated 9/11? That there are alien bodies on ice in Area 51? That in 1943 the USS Eldridge was rendered invisible in the Philadelphia Navy Yard and teleported to the naval base at Hampton Roads and back? That the Illuminati run the planet? That a tinfoil hat will protect you from mind-reading rays? They're all at about equal levels of foolishness, if you believe any one of them you'll fall for all the others too, and reality will pass you by.
Well I smoke - no fire. Getting old. Well not as much fire. But the fire still burns longer. Fuel efficiency I guess. Guess I am Eco conscious as I age.
I'm only guessing, but I suspect what he means is that if Obama said "I'll do it for 10 million" he may have had a deal. Remember, crazy as he may be, Trump is a negotiator and deal maker.
Have you looked at why people are finding them unsatisfactory? Believe me, they're not claiming the Long Form is a hologram controlled from the new Building 7. There are serious problems with it. I don't know or care where Obama was born, the Republicans made it clear it's not an issue they're going to pursue, but it looks an awful lot like he's hiding SOMETHING anyway.
I believe Obama was born in the US. But locking away his scholastic records adds to the conspiracy theorists. He should release those records after the election.
Wether it's proven or not is subjective, but there's lots of reason's to question it. It would be a very simple matter to invite someone from MSNBC, FoxNews, and Donald Trump to fly to Hawaii and examine the original. With a huge payoff to boot, courtesy of Mr. Trump. What a glorious opportunity it would be to make Trump pay at least 5 million to look like a complete idiot. Wouldn't YOU make that deal?
Ask our American friends here how many SSN's they have.
Well sure. It's pretty obvious Barry didn't write one of his books - I think it was the first one - suspicion is it was written by Ayers, based on the style. Lots of authors do that too. Kinda makes you go hmmmm though when one biographical untruth is that he was born in Kenya, and the other probability is that his ghost writer was a convicted unrepentent terrorist who "just happened to live in the neighborhood". lol
It does now, matters about 5 million bucks worth. Of course, that's an attempted obfuscation by you, since we already know his grades were poor and we don't care. That's not the part of the school records we're interested in.
We can't bring back the dead but we still prosecute murderers.
Why after the election, why not in time to redistribute some of Trumps wealth?
Be real, Trump doesn't need to spend $5 million to look like an idiot, he does it for free all the time.
HAHAHAHA!!! How true. The Obama haters will do all they can to BLAME OBAMA for everything under the sun.
Well, at least they don't say BLAME GOPHER!!
Y'all don't want proof. Y'all have blind love, even "cult-like" worship for Barry, and anything presented by birthers is downplayed simply because you don't want birthers, who are conservative, to prove you wrong.
I suppose it's the same as when a youth tries to show me "mountains of evidence" for the US involvement in 9/11. I don't listen either.
Proven forgery:
BREAKING! Arpaio Investigation: Obama Certificate 100% FORGED! National Security In Jeopardy! - YouTube
Care to explain how the Kenyan-born "mistake" started in the first place? Or why it took 16 years for it to be acknowledged?
Not interested in his grades. We want to know how the supposed son of a poor Kenyan goat farmer (possibly not his real father) paid for expensive colleges like Harvard and Occidental. Foreign aid? Bill Ayers?
Because if he's guilty of a coup d'etat he should be imprisoned obviously! Duh!
Not true. If the micro-film for the alleged birth certificate was released it would be undeniable that he was born in Hawaii. A micro-film would be irrefutable and would simply destroy the birther movement.
To nail it down perfectly, Obama is a syncretist. "God" is a punchline for him. Thanks to sycretism / relativism there's no conflict in his mind being a "Christian" and a Muslim at the same time. His profession as a "Christian" was done purely for the political stance.
Remember that actions speak louder than words.
His words: "I'm a Christian".
His actions: Obama's hostility towards people of biblical faith and preferential treatment of Muslims
And although I would nail Obama has a sycretist, for the sake of this argument, yes, he's a Muslim:
OBAMA the Muslim - HIS OWN WORDS - YouTube
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Were there not various conspiracies to assassinate Hitler from Germans in his own ranks? Did you know that after WW2 the US Gov conspired with the church to use taxpayer cash to spread pro-democracy propaganda in Italy in order to convince voters to reject communism, a secret at the time?
A lot of folks seem to think that Noriega was installed as Panama's Pres by the CIA. If the US Gov is capable, is the Islamic world also capable of getting one past the people? I wouldn't put the intelligence and the fortitude past them.
I hate conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but there's too much evidence against the most secretive Pres in US history to discard it as foolish.
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is that an admission of guilt g? I knew it was all your fault.
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I don't have love for any of them, they are all the same. Corporate controlled puppets installed as figureheads to give the population an illusion of choice. I really don't care if you can prove it or not...it doesn't matter.
I feel that way when the majority of the populace starts ranting and raving about this guy will run the country better than that guy. They don't really run the country so I don't listen...I just laugh.
How the hell would I know and why would I really care. They can put Kermit the frog in the white house with Ms Piggy as VP for all the difference it makes.
And I want to know the caramilk secret.
Really??? I missed it when he took over the military and stormed the white house, got a link?
Coup d'état - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And if red were green we would see more accidents at intersections. 'IF' is a pretty big word.
There is NO evidence proven by the simple fact that if there was any evidence something would have happened by now. All there is is conjecture and speculation.
Not a chance, that'd just be dismissed as a fake too, just as the first two were. It might convince you, but the birther movement in general, no, these paranoid conspiracy theories don't work that way.
Yeah, and you'd think the media could have done a better job vetting this guy too. There was an SNL skit about how the media questioned McCain with tough foreign policy questions, but then would ask Obama easy questions like "if he wants a pillow?". They-love-him.
Your Leftist LAPDOG Media - YouTube
Well I don't blame you for being skeptical. Myself, I think Mr. "Barry Soetoro" isn't telling us his real past.
Corporate controlled puppets? Figureheads? I just want to get my hands on the President's college records because I'm skeptical about his birth certificate. You're the one talking about a conspiracy of shadowy businessmen controlling the entire government. What's up with that? Don't label this guy here "crazy", nah, that's on you bro.
So if you don't really care, then it wouldn't matter to you if the President was completely lying about his past? And then why give credence to any evidence that shows he's lying, right? How convenient for you when you'd rather have Barry in than out. Interesting...
WE CARE.
Are you seriously going to overlook that a coup d'etat doesn't necessarily have to happen by military force? C'mon dude. I'd accuse Barry of treason, but by that definition he would have had loyalty in the first place prior to betrayal. I think he hates America and never had any allegiance to begin with, and that's why I used coup d'etat, it's a better description of his crime.
I'm telling you, it's because your all in love with the guy. Even you, when you say it doesn't matter, they're all the same and what not. I'm not buying it. Your a lefty, he's a lefty. Let's not kid ourselves. He's your guy and that's why you won't listen to the evidence against him.