Does Jesus have a soul?

MHz

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Your salvation is between you and God. I know it will happen, that doesn't mean He can't put you near the end of the line (and all that comes with it).
 

JLM

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Did anybody reply to your 'question'? Perhaps no reply means you stand alone when you only think that you have many companions,

You're funny. People generally speak up when they adamantly DISAGREE!

If any of you mods are paying attention I suggest Mhz's threads automatically go into the "jokes" department! -:)
 

MHz

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I guess that means its between me and myself, which is where it has been all along.
Tell me that when the 1,000 years are over.

Thanks for the faith in me.
My faith is in God, just like it is for Jews being gathered as a whole people.

Eze:36:20:
And when they entered unto the heathen,
whither they went,
they profaned my holy name,
when they said to them,
These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
Eze:36:21:
But I had pity for mine holy name,
which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen,
whither they went.
Eze:36:22:
Therefore say unto the house of Israel,
Thus saith the Lord GOD;
I do not this for your sakes,
O house of Israel,
but for mine holy name's sake,
which ye have profaned among the heathen,
whither ye went.

At the end of a line of one? Odd concept.
It's a group thing, you should at least understand what you are rejecting. Oh wait, if you could understand it you wouldn't reject it.

Re:22:11:
He that is unjust,
let him be unjust still:
and he which is filthy,
let him be filthy still:
and he that is righteous,
let him be righteous still:
and he that is holy,
let him be holy still.
 

Dexter Sinister

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... if you could understand it you wouldn't reject it.
No, you make that mistake all the time, understanding does not imply either acceptance or agreement. I understand what you're saying alright, but I'm convinced you're wrong, that's all.
 

L Gilbert

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Tell me that when the 1,000 years are over.
Um, I'm not that old and besides that I probably will never get to be that old. I wouldn't want to be anyway. Life would become too damn boring for my liking.


My faith is in God, just like it is for Jews being gathered as a whole people.
I sympathise.

It's a group thing, you should at least understand what you are rejecting. Oh wait, if you could understand it you wouldn't reject it.
You may have something there. Trouble is I never could understand any rational reason why I should believe in things that don't exist.
 

darkbeaver

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“The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It is the chief occupation of mankind.” -- H. L. Mencken

You don't know how funny that is to see offered by a gravity model ludite like you Sinister. I think I'll have a drink.hahahahahahahahahahaha

Gawd Damn! Looks like I started a flame war.

a religious flame war cliffy, the worst kind, I wonder how many posters will be cruxified?
 

MHz

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Trouble is I never could understand any rational reason why I should believe in things that don't exist.
There isn't any fault to not believing the book, that is why there is a few years before the return that allows for some to be offered proof and even those that miss it then are still gathered to God before. In all honesty a person in your position should raed Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 and leave it at that as everything in between is about the two bruises mentioned in Ge:3:15. Take you all of 10 minutes and you don't even have to ponder what it means.

You don't know how funny that is to see offered by a gravity model ludite like you Sinister. I think I'll have a drink.hahahahahahahahahahaha



a religious flame war cliffy, the worst kind, I wonder how many posters will be cruxified?
In this war verses are what causes the eyes to bleed.
 

Cliffy

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Were you hoping that your post would be the thread closer?
Nope. I was just commenting on all the blood letting going on.

BTW, Jesus was human and thus had a soul. Christ is a fictional character based on Mithra, Horus and Krishna, so couldn't have a soul.
 

damngrumpy

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The New Testament never was a complete document of the truths about the faith.
It was a four part compromise Mathew Mark Luke and John were in a political scrap
for control of the Church and to keep it from coming off the rails they merged the
texts and it shows in many places. In addition there were many other Gospels that
were not made part of it like Timothy and others. The Bible has been written dozens
of times by those who interpreted it differently and those who used it for the own
gain.
The intent is still there but to take all the things literally is a bit of a stretch.
I do agree with those who are saying many of these threads are more for
the purpose of baiting others rather than creating a discussion
 

French Patriot

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just one more argument in stupidity from that troll

Yweo without a social conscience i see.

Who cares? Abused children for one.

It is my view that all literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us whoare moral religionists as well as those who do not believe. They all hurt theirparent religions and everyone else who has a belief or not. They make us allinto laughing stocks and should rethink their position. There is a Godhead butnot the God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution. Beliefs infantasy, miracles and magic are evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HKHaClUCw4&feature=PlayList&p=5123864A5243470E&index=0&playnext=1

They also do much harm to their own.

African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=48b_1185215493

Death to Gays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_BVzw&feature=related

For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

Oh wait. You two do not know anything of duty.

Regards
DL


If he qualifies for these verse then He has a living soul.
Ge:2:7:
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.

Ec:3:20:
All go unto one place; all are of the dust,
and all turn to dust again.

Ec:12:7:
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was:
and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.


We have no evidence of God beinga creator.

Yet God warned to fear the onewho could kill souls.
If Jesus had one then he could die and cannot beimmortal.

Right?

Regards
DL


I wonder if anyone else besides me finds most of these religious questions absolutely ridiculous.

They do point to ridiculous theist notions. That is the point. To show them that their dogma and doctrines do not stand up to logic and reason.

But without a social conscience, you do not care how many are hurt by religions.

Try becoming a Canadian. We tend to care about our fellow man.

Regards
DL

lol IF the dude existed on the planet at one time, he would long ago have turned into dust, so no, I would say he HAS no soul.
IF there is such a thing as a "soul" (I mean to the extent of some lifeforce rather than a colloquial term for a human being), the probabilities are that it actually is a term for "mind".
But then faith causes minds to breach probabilities and reason to create an awful lot of surreal things.

For sure on that last.

Those who can make youbelieve absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
Voltaire


Your definition beats out most attempts by theists to describe soul.

Regards
DL

Kind of renders the whole discussion to be hypothetical, which is what I was basing my comment on. :) IOW, there are no such things as souls, but if there were, another word for them would be minds.

No argument but the way you state it, it becomes a logical fallacy.
We should not fall into the miss-use of language the way theists do when they make claims that they cannot prove.
I had to learn that the hard way.

Regards
DL

The New Testament never was a complete document of the truths about the faith.
It was a four part compromise Mathew Mark Luke and John were in a political scrap
for control of the Church and to keep it from coming off the rails they merged the
texts and it shows in many places. In addition there were many other Gospels that
were not made part of it like Timothy and others. The Bible has been written dozens
of times by those who interpreted it differently and those who used it for the own
gain.
The intent is still there but to take all the things literally is a bit of a stretch.
I do agree with those who are saying many of these threads are more for
the purpose of baiting others rather than creating a discussion

Yet the implication of God/Jesus having a soul leads to many strange circumstances that believers have not considered because they do not read or analyse what they read in scriptures and just swallow what they are told.

Regards
DL
 

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SO FP what is your answer. And then I may, just may tell you what the acronym FP meant in the Army.