Disturbing Map Of Food Deserts.
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Yes and no, JLM. The problem with user pay is that it opens the door for the inclusion of other types of medical problems that aren't a matter of life-style habits. As much as I might like to see the obese get taxed for their poor eating habits, I would not like to see anyone else be punished for a disease beyond their control and a case could be made for that happening. IMHO. :smile:
First of all I am opposed to ethanol plants, and having said that why is it that people, as
in consumers are willing to pay for gasoline but not food? Farmers like the plants as it
provides way more money than growing food. For example a farm on the prairie is now
making some good money on the books, but, the cost of growing the food as in grain or
corn or anything else, sees the expenses eat up almost all of it. the figure on average is
around 86% of the income is eaten up in expenses from fertilizer, chemical sprays, fuel,
equipment costs, and getting it to market. In addition there are food safe programs that
are mandatory for Canadian farmers, but get this, if the food is imported they do Not
have to be subjected to the same food safety regulations. I know this to be true, as I sit
on one of the committees, for a farm organization that is pushing the government to have
all food regardless of where its grown, be subject to the same laws and regulations or it
should not be allowed in.
If you own a car company and costs go up you pass on the costs, in the food industry
that won't happen due to the way food distribution is done, so the farmer eats the added
costs. Governments instituted a cheap food policy thirty years ago. The problem is they
should have instituted a healthy food policy, and a quality food policy and they didn't.
People don't want to pay for quality or a nutritional food policy, but they are willing to pay more
for medicare, because of the health problems brought about by processed food.
And its said we don't have too much problem with the abundance of food in North America.
Think again. In parts of California there has been drought in the some parts of the State full
food production was cut back last year and likely this year. The reason there is a growing
shortage of water for agriculture and it getting worse here as well. The governments are
reviewing water policy and have been for four years now, and government and agriculture
are both getting worried about the coming problems in part of the country. Manitoba is a
problem for two reasons. One the flooding will see many crops not planted and the land will
have problems for a few years to come due to the damage done by the floods.
Lots of problems with agriculture, the corporate food and food distribution system and no one
seems to care at the moment. Wait till food prices sky rocket and there is water problems
environmental problems and the biggest problem of all the average age of a farmer in Canada
is 58 years old. I myself will only be doing this for another five years I am done at seventy.
If you think the oil shortages and climate changes are impending problems, wait until the food
and water problems manifest themselves, then you are going to see serious problems.
I said to our Agriculture Minister a month ago in his office,,"Brace yourself, the only three things
that will matter in ten years will be Food, Water and Oil. That is where we are headed
in consumers are willing to pay for gasoline but not food? Farmers like the plants as it
provides way more money than growing food. For example a farm on the prairie is now
making some good money on the books, but, the cost of growing the food as in grain or
corn or anything else, sees the expenses eat up almost all of it. the figure on average is
around 86% of the income is eaten up in expenses from fertilizer, chemical sprays, fuel,
equipment costs, and getting it to market. In addition there are food safe programs that
are mandatory for Canadian farmers, but get this, if the food is imported they do Not
have to be subjected to the same food safety regulations. I know this to be true, as I sit
on one of the committees, for a farm organization that is pushing the government to have
all food regardless of where its grown, be subject to the same laws and regulations or it
should not be allowed in.
If you own a car company and costs go up you pass on the costs, in the food industry
that won't happen due to the way food distribution is done, so the farmer eats the added
costs. Governments instituted a cheap food policy thirty years ago. The problem is they
should have instituted a healthy food policy, and a quality food policy and they didn't.
People don't want to pay for quality or a nutritional food policy, but they are willing to pay more
for medicare, because of the health problems brought about by processed food.
And its said we don't have too much problem with the abundance of food in North America.
Think again. In parts of California there has been drought in the some parts of the State full
food production was cut back last year and likely this year. The reason there is a growing
shortage of water for agriculture and it getting worse here as well. The governments are
reviewing water policy and have been for four years now, and government and agriculture
are both getting worried about the coming problems in part of the country. Manitoba is a
problem for two reasons. One the flooding will see many crops not planted and the land will
have problems for a few years to come due to the damage done by the floods.
Lots of problems with agriculture, the corporate food and food distribution system and no one
seems to care at the moment. Wait till food prices sky rocket and there is water problems
environmental problems and the biggest problem of all the average age of a farmer in Canada
is 58 years old. I myself will only be doing this for another five years I am done at seventy.
If you think the oil shortages and climate changes are impending problems, wait until the food
and water problems manifest themselves, then you are going to see serious problems.
I said to our Agriculture Minister a month ago in his office,,"Brace yourself, the only three things
that will matter in ten years will be Food, Water and Oil. That is where we are headed
Ah yes, good old sin tax. No that doesn't work, lol.
I wasn't referring to some new program, I meant existing funding (like for education or healthcare) and where some parts of that should be focused on preventative measures. Not saying it would turn it all around or anything like that, but good choices start with good information which I think has been lacking for a generation or two. At least that's my observation.
And, in Canada anyway, we do end up paying for the after effects of all this in our healthcare, as Mowich was saying earlier, so if there is anything that can be done to prevent at least some of it, I'd say give it a shot. Doing nothing certainly isn't helping.
Um, there are only about 350 million folk in the US so 13 billion cannot be having difficulties in finding enough food to eat.
We either give them cars or run a delivery service to their homes. Pick one. You live in a desolate area, your creating a problem for everyone including yourself if you have trouble getting food in your home.
Yes. It's foolish to think that 13 Million aren't finding enough to eat when our poor are so darn fat they need the Fire Department to smash door frames to get them out of their apartments.
I also pointed out that on review of the city I grew up in the have a "Food Desert" on the side of the city that is the most wealthiest. This desert also encompasses a state park, two golf courses, and a mall.
I agree that if you are going to spend the day at the state park you may want to pack a picnic basket as there will not be a Super Market within the park confines.
And if they get hungry on one of the golf courses they will have to get a sandwich at the club house.
And if they get hungry at the mall they will have to go to the food court.
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Food and a lack of nutritious food are why you see so much fat. Teach people how to cook and how to eat and this wouldn't be an issue.
I see it in my neighbourhood all the time.
Chips and Pepsi isn't a meal. It's a death sentence.
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Teach people how to cook and eat? Why on earth do we need to teach people to do what mankind has done for thousands of years? Why on earth do we need tax payer funded government programs for common sense?
They are lazy. They can get to the store, buy food, get home and cook it but they simply won't.
Stop making excuses for them... and I say that in a brotherly way.
Teach people how to cook and eat? Why on earth do we need to teach people to do what mankind has done for thousands of years? Why on earth do we need tax payer funded government programs for common sense?
They are lazy. They can get to the store, buy food, get home and cook it but they simply won't.
Stop making excuses for them... and I say that in a brotherly way.
One simple solution to rectify 75% of the problem. Ban processed food (any food where the list of ingredients exceeds one)
Why ban these things? My boys are both athletes and in great shape. Every once and awhile they'll pop some of those appetizers in after school. It is all about moderation. Because some families live on them as well as take out is no reason to punish the families and people that have them as a treat here and there.