Disturbing Map Of Food Deserts.

[JLM]

I think the main reason is $$$$$$.

Coke, Pepsi, Frito-Lay, etc all kick in a portion of the take to the schools.

And they can afford to do it. I'm not sure the granola bar industry is large enough to absorb that as a promotional cost. Coca-Cola is.

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Then I'm suggesting that these bastards are just as criminal as those who sell street drugs to our kids. (Sorry for the language) :lol:

There is no reason why a "Quarter Pounder" can't be healthy as long as it is lean meat in a Whole Wheat bun with dried mustard and no salt added.

They are, in all the schools in our area.

Anyone remember that scene of Chara on the bench at one of the last round of playoff games, drinking a Coke? He was warned - Coke isn't an official sponsor of the NHL, so if he's going to drink Coke, it has to be in a different container, preferrably a Gatorade bottle. Ovetchkin was told the same thing, apparently he likes Coke on the bench, too.

And Gatorade is another offender..........the "sports drinks" are killers. Substitute V-8 juice.

 

[petros]

And Gatorade is another offender..........the "sports drinks" are killers. Substitute V-8 juice.

The only "sports drink" worth drinking is water.

Anything with aspartame is outright poison.

 

[JLM]

The only "sports drink" worth drinking is water.

Anything with aspartame is outright poison.

I agree 99% but water doesn't provide much in the way of energy, but a spoonful of honey in the water would probably do the trick. Common sense helps with these issues. There's an idea, make up 100 quarts of honied water and take them down to the arena and I bet you could sell them for a buck a quart. :smile:

 

[petros]

I agree 99% but water doesn't provide much in the way of energy, but a spoonful of honey in the water would probably do the trick. Common sense helps with these issues. There's an idea, make up 100 quarts of honied water and take them down to the arena and I bet you could sell them for a buck a quart. :smile:

That's why you eat properly.

You might be on to something. A natural based electrolyte replacer would sell like organic hotcakes.

 

[TenPenny]

The only "sports drink" worth drinking is water.

Anything with aspartame is outright poison.

Gatorade doesn't have aspartame, and replenishing your electrolytes can be helpful. Water won't cut it.

Like when kids are very sick with the flu, instead of pedialyte, Gatorade is a cheaper alternative.

 

[petros]

Thanks for the correction. Perhaps it is Powerade or one of those other "sports drinks" I'm thinking of?Personally I just drink lemonaid with a touch of mineral salts.

 

[EagleSmack]

So simply saying to skip the cookie aisle, or moderate fast foods, is only half the battle, I think. And that's where education comes in to play, imho.

But you know what to do. You see your faults and know that the quick foods are most likely the least healthy. Also, to make healthy foods taste better than the quicker prepared dinners (fast foods, take out, microwave foods, etc) you need to put effort.

You don't need education, you just need to do the right thing.

We Americans do not need education either, we need to do the right thing.

We SURELY do not need to be taxing everyone for more of these programs. They simply don't work.

 

[YukonJack]

I wonder how many people bother to read the "Nutrition Facts" label on just about every item in the super market? How many of those who do read it compare it to the label on similar products?

 

[EagleSmack]

Thanks for the correction. Perhaps it is Powerade or one of those other "sports drinks" I'm thinking of?Personally I just drink lemonaid with a touch of mineral salts.

And my mother was told by her Doctor to use Powerade instead of Gatorade when she exercises. She's in her 70's. lol

I drink both Powerade and Gatorade while I work out because my work outs are pretty intense. I do that P90X workout so you need to replace electrolytes and I feel a little better than just using water.

After work outs I use a recovery drink which is fairly new to me. I bought this powder that you mix with water and it is supposed to replace a lot more nutrients than the Gatorade/Powerade drink. The only downside is that it has a little more carbs.

I wonder how many people bother to read the "Nutrition Facts" label on just about every item in the super market? How many of those who do read it compare it to the label on similar products?

I do!

 

[JLM]

Gatorade doesn't have aspartame, and replenishing your electrolytes can be helpful. Water won't cut it.

Like when kids are very sick with the flu, instead of pedialyte, Gatorade is a cheaper alternative.

People got along very well before that sh*t was even invented. Water with a spoon of honey works as good as anything, without the subversive ingredients.

And my mother was told by her Doctor to use Powerade instead of Gatorade when she exercises. She's in her 70's. lol

I drink both Powerade and Gatorade while I work out because my work outs are pretty intense. I do that P90X workout so you need to replace electrolytes and I feel a little better than just using water.

After work outs I use a recovery drink which is fairly new to me. I bought this powder that you mix with water and it is supposed to replace a lot more nutrients than the Gatorade/Powerade drink. The only downside is that it has a little more carbs.



I do!

After I work out I have a cup of coffee....................works fine. It's sickening how many people are trying to sell you so much "snake oil" these days. They are just one notch up the line from the drug dealer.

I wonder how many people bother to read the "Nutrition Facts" label on just about every item in the super market? How many of those who do read it compare it to the label on similar products?

I do............you shouldn't buy anything that has more than about one ingredient.

But you know what to do. You see your faults and know that the quick foods are most likely the least healthy. Also, to make healthy foods taste better than the quicker prepared dinners (fast foods, take out, microwave foods, etc) you need to put effort.

You don't need education, you just need to do the right thing.

We Americans do not need education either, we need to do the right thing.

We SURELY do not need to be taxing everyone for more of these programs. They simply don't work.

There are lots of "fast foods" that are very healthy...........a peanut butter sandwich on whole wheat bread, a handful of peanuts, a handful of raisins.

 

[EagleSmack]

After I work out I have a cup of coffee....................works fine. It's sickening how many people are trying to sell you so much "snake oil" these days. They are just one notch up the line from the drug dealer.

I hear you. The supplement stores are simply filled with all types of stuff that I would deem useless.

I used to see some guy walk around with a cup of coffee as he worked out. The important part is that you are working out. But don't knock the power drinks, they do replace electrolytes that you burn up so they aren't bad. They are not a replacement to OJ in the morning but for people that work out and participate in sports they are good.

There are lots of "fast foods" that are very healthy...........a peanut butter sandwich on whole wheat bread, a handful of peanuts, a handful of raisins.

If we could only get people to follow that thinking though. I consume all these things you have mentioned. Heck I'll even pass on the wheat bread to keep carbs down and have a spoonfull of peanut butter.

 

[JLM]

It's only been in the past 10 years or so that I've heard any mention of "electrolytes". What did we do before someone discovered them? :smile:

I hear you. The supplement stores are simply filled with all types of stuff that I would deem useless.

I used to see some guy walk around with a cup of coffee as he worked out. The important part is that you are working out. But don't knock the power drinks, they do replace electrolytes that you burn up so they aren't bad. They are not a replacement to OJ in the morning but for people that work out and participate in sports they are good.



If we could only get people to follow that thinking though. I consume all these things you have mentioned. Heck I'll even pass on the wheat bread to keep carbs down and have a spoonfull of peanut butter.

W.W. bread is important for fibre.

 

[EagleSmack]

It's only been in the past 10 years or so that I've heard any mention of "electrolytes". What did we do before someone discovered them? :smile:

W.W. bread is important for fibre.

Probably nothing. But you can't knock advancements in nutrition. Back in the day they used to tell our parents to have us drink plenty of clear fluids and ginger ale when we were sick. When I had my kids the Docs told us gatorade.

My Doc winced a bit when I told him I drink gatorade. He's a pain in the butt. He said use half water and half gatorade and I listen to him. Plus a bottle of Gatorade lasts twice as long that way.

 

[YukonJack]

They say in my part of the world that if you don't like the weather, wait five minutes.

When it comes to nutrition, you might have to wait a little bit longer, but sure as death and taxes, everything that is bad for you today, probably will be good for you tomorrow.

I recall that see-saw with butter, sugar, meat, bread, bacon, ham, eggs, etc., you name it. The only thing the pinheads never reversed their opinion about is nicotine.

Personally I eat what I like, in moderation, and follow the wisdom that I would rather add life to my years - which I enjoy - than add years(?) to my life and hate eating tasteless and bland 'healthy foods'.

 

[EagleSmack]

Let's not forget the Bran Muffin craze.

 

[YukonJack]

Let's not forget the Bran Muffin craze.

Reminds me:

An old couple died and went to the pearly gates, where St. Peter welcomed them: "Come in my children, you are in Heaven, here everything is yours and free! Let me show you your new residence".

So he takes them over to this house which make the Taj Mahal look like a tar paper shack. The old guy protests: "Father, there is no way I could pay the rent, let alone the mortgage on that house?" St. Peter tells him: Don't worry about that, son, like I said this is Heaven, here everything is yours! Let me take you to my favourite golf course, so you can enjoy your most favourite game".

Off they go and arrive at this golf course that makes the Masters Golf course in Augusta look like the city dump. The old man cries: "Father, there is no way I could ever afford the green fees on this course" to which St.Peter replies: "Don't you understand, son? This is heaven, here, everything is yours!".

So, when they finished eighteen holes, St. Peter says: "I am famished and I am sure, you are too. Let'g go and get a bite".

Off they go to this restaurant that makes the Ritz looks like a cheap greasy spoon. However, by this time the old man knows that he is in Heaven, so he says nothing until he picks up the menu. In despair he cries: "There is nothing here that I can eat! Nothing fat-free! Nothing sugar-free! Nothing salt-free! No vegetarian items on the menu at all!"

St. Peter says: "For the last time son, this is Heaven! Not only everything here is yours, you can also eat and drink everything you like!"

So, the old man turns to his wife and blasts: "DAMN you woman, if not for your bran muffins, I could have been twenty years sooner!"

 

[SLM]

But you know what to do. You see your faults and know that the quick foods are most likely the least healthy. Also, to make healthy foods taste better than the quicker prepared dinners (fast foods, take out, microwave foods, etc) you need to put effort.

You don't need education, you just need to do the right thing.

We Americans do not need education either, we need to do the right thing.

We SURELY do not need to be taxing everyone for more of these programs. They simply don't work.

Taxing who for what programs?

Did I miss something?

 

[JLM]

They say in my part of the world that if you don't like the weather, wait five minutes.

When it comes to nutrition, you might have to wait a little bit longer, but sure as death and taxes, everything that is bad for you today, probably will be good for you tomorrow.

I recall that see-saw with butter, sugar, meat, bread, bacon, ham, eggs, etc., you name it. The only thing the pinheads never reversed their opinion about is nicotine.

Personally I eat what I like, in moderation, and follow the wisdom that I would rather add life to my years - which I enjoy - than add years(?) to my life and hate eating tasteless and bland 'healthy foods'.

That's the whole key right there Y.J. "in moderation" a bigk, filthy, sloppy, greasy Big Mac once a month won't hurt you as long as you are doing your laps every day. Bacon is good for you as long as it's back bacon.

 

[Mowich]

I hear what you are saying, EagleSmack and understand your problem with overweight people who refuse to change their ways and add generation after generation who know no better.

My dilemma is that unhealthy people are an added burden on the health care system on every level from emergency care to surgery. At a time when health care costs are rising yearly, this is an unnecessary burden on the taxpayer whose wages support health care. By intervening in these people's lives, by helping them learn the benefits and rewards of healthier eating - the health care system also benefits. Leaving things the way they are will only lead to worsening obesity and an ever- growing and needless burden on health care. IMHO.

[FONT=&quot]"The North American lifestyle, it contends, plays a significant role. A grossly overweight person consumes about 42% more health dollars per year than a person with the proper body weight. Japan, for instance, spends relatively little on health care, but because of its skinnier population (and perhaps its focus on high-tech diagnostic equipment), Japanese have significantly longer, healthier lives than Americans and Canadians."[/FONT]


National Post editorial board: Canada must abandon its health-care monopoly | Full Comment | National Post

 

[petros]

[FONT=&quot]"The North American lifestyle, it contends, plays a significant role. A grossly overweight person consumes about 42% more health dollars per year than a person with the proper body weight. Japan, for instance, spends relatively little on health care, but because of its skinnier population (and perhaps its focus on high-tech diagnostic equipment), Japanese have significantly longer, healthier lives than Americans and Canadians."[/FONT]


National Post editorial board: Canada must abandon its health-care monopoly | Full Comment | National Post

They eat fish. If you want to be skinny, healthy and think sharper. Eat fish.