Did Obama Interfere In Canada's Security Council Bid?

B00Mer

Make Canada Great Again
Sep 6, 2008
47,142
8,151
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.canadianforums.ca
Obama Interfere In Canada's Security Council Bid?

In the lead up to Canada's failed bid for a seat on the Security Council, the American delegates did not campaign for Canada or do anything to help rally support for another North American seat. According to a former American United Nations spokesperson this was not an accident, but rather an executive order. The charge is that the American delegation was ordered to do nothing to help Canada win a seat. It is unclear whether this order came from the Oval Office, but what is clear is that the United States did nothing to help us win the seat.

"U.S. State Department insiders say that U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice not only didn’t campaign for Canada’s election but instructed American diplomats to not get involved in the weeks leading up to the heated contest. With no public American support, Canada lost its bid to serve. That gives the EU more than 25% control of the body and a strong voting block to ensure EU priorities become global priorities."
 

Tonington

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 27, 2006
15,441
150
63
How is that akin to interfering? It's like saying the neutral Swiss interfered with every war they didn't fight in...
 

Tonington

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 27, 2006
15,441
150
63
We deserve it more than Portugal did. How will Portugal pay for this extravagance? Seats on the Security Council require more money than just the standard UN dues...
 

Icarus27k

Council Member
Apr 4, 2010
1,508
7
38
Be careful using the phrase "executive order". It means something specific in the Executive branch.
 

Colpy

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 5, 2005
21,887
848
113
71
Saint John, N.B.
it's because of our stance for Israel.

plus (IMO) we have a nut for a leader.
THANK GOD we back Israel, and THANK GOD we have a leader strong enough not to bend to the Jew Haters just for a seat on the Council Of Hypocrites and Idiots.

AND, the USA simply not supporting us does not constitute them scuttling our bid for a seat.
 

damngrumpy

Executive Branch Member
Mar 16, 2005
9,949
21
38
kelowna bc
The government didn't deserve a council seat and that is the plain truth.
Our government does support Israel, so does America, so what. The
Israeli support goes too far true, but look at what they are fighting against.
Can you imagine that rabble in place of influence? The Arab world is so
divided they fight each other and when taken prisoner by one group they
just change sides, so much for real principles.
As for the other reason, the real reasons. No not support for Israel that is
a red herring, the real reason is our terrible record on international aid and
helping nations get back on their feet. Its over the ideological spat, where
we don't want aid money going for abortions and that kind of health care.
As for anyone country interfering with our bid to win a seat? Hell that is
politics, and we did our share of trying to prevent Libya from getting a seat
years ago. Some of the positions this government has taken I agree with,
even though I am more left than right. There are others that raise the
eyebrows of almost everyone.
 

DavidB

Nominee Member
Apr 24, 2006
96
0
6
www.akiti.ca
No big loss.
It is not a matter of whether or not we deserved it; it wasn't worth going after in the first place. I wonder why we even bothered.
 

damngrumpy

Executive Branch Member
Mar 16, 2005
9,949
21
38
kelowna bc
Canada has at time brought some level of sanity to this troubled organization.
In the founding years we played a major role but no one want to find ways to
communicate anymore. The UN is now a depot to find ways to suck money
out of the West and affluent nations, to hand over to crooks, tyrants and the
dictators of the world. The original purpose of the UN has been over grown
by the weeds of greed a long time ago
 

Tonington

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 27, 2006
15,441
150
63
No big loss.
It is not a matter of whether or not we deserved it; it wasn't worth going after in the first place. I wonder why we even bothered.

Because the Security Council seats have a lot of sway over foreign policy, something this government wants.
 

Omicron

Privy Council
Jul 28, 2010
1,694
3
38
Vancouver
Don't be retarded.

Canada has been tanking it's international reputation ever since Mulroney... Just ask Steven Lewis... and it got worse when even more selfish right-wingie money bags controlling got into power in order to change the situation from one of governing a nation to be a nation to one of gutting the oyster for one's self as much as possible, just like what brought down Argentina, which used to be the western hemisphere's most advanced country before it got taken over by the right.

There's nothing wrong with the right per se. They can make lots of money, and if they pay the same taxes as everyone else, it makes for lots of good infrastructure. The problem is if their evil selfish no-soul kids bribe the umpire.

Everything breaks down when the umpire is bribed. Without an umpire you get to life like south-central Americans. Lots of resources, but nothing happens except for the super rich having power enough to pick up twelve year old beauties in the marketplace in order to take her home and hurt her because she hasn't grown up enough to take even a small sausage like that.

Harper is acting like a baby who got beat up by Ottawa his first time around and is coming back to tank the system just to show he can, regardless of consequences.

When Canada had contribution from Quebec, we became a better society, but now they're clamped out with the BQ.

Without Quebec's contribution, we are not a nation. We are the dumbest most hickabilly northern branch of the USA.

Now you're going to say Jesus loves you because you go to church.

Now you're going to tell me you understand the quantum physics required to keep your cell-phone running, and how you don't know about how your hateful, hungry and hostile ancestors got exported from Europe by the powers that be because they were jerks as stupid as anyone to vote for a Harper.

The descendants got as stupid as north America is now with the wrong heads taking power, such that the only thing Canada was good at, which is have real forces, got sent overseas to fight WW-I and WW-II... and now you're getting set up to eat Harper hype to give away more of your nation to shareholders, and he won't tell you which stocks to invest in.

English Canadians are a bunch of ****ing neanderthal throwbacks forced up north because they're too dumb to function in the US. They are kept civilized by an oath to the Queen, and they only got to experience first-world life on the level of the rest of the world because of Quebec - a true nation - and her Prime Ministers.

When has it ever happened that the oyster-shucking umpire-bribing conservatives made the country better when they got power? They're not in power to make a better society. They are in power to gut it down to the level of Argentina.

Let's go back: Diefenbaker? Destroyed Canada's lead in figher craft. Mulroney? Destroyed Canadian industry and turned it into a place only able to survive if the provinces kept up on education in order to sell intelligence to the states. Harper? A twit intent on having it carved on his tomb that he destroyed Canada because the Ontario elite are jerks (which they are) hurt him.

We have not had any intelligent input of information and attitude required to be a first world nation since the Bloc Quebecois.


Canada cannot be a first-world nation without Quebec. I've been there and all I had to do was carry an English-French dictionary.


Quebec is depressed because they like being able to visit Rocky Mountains as unencumbered citizens.

They think their own BQ leader is a jerk. It's all about what happens when MBA capitalistic beasts take over. MBA Capitalists are not happy until they are getting their dick sucked while sitting on the thrown wondering why God doesn't love them, *if* they are thoughtful.


Anyway, the problem with Obama is he's lonely. It's a common problem with Presidents. They go nuts because they have no friends.


His behavior is classic. He's ranting because he really was of a nature to bring people together. He will go to heaven and he's lonely. He's a good guy, but the top levels of Washington prowled by neanderthal beasts gaining joy from gaming the constitution are hurting his brain, and he's going to have to get touch, and he will handle it better if he know he's loved by the good people.

By the way... what saved those miners in Chile? Did the mine owners rush forward with soul-full desperation wanting desperately to spend money to save them?

Actually, believe it or not, the answer is yes if the workers would take care of bad competitors.
 
Last edited:

captain morgan

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 28, 2009
28,429
148
63
A Mouse Once Bit My Sister
the real reason is our terrible record on international aid and helping nations get back on their feet.


I would argue that Canada, among other nations, have applied an excess of funds over the years. The track record related to the disbursement of the aid funds is atrocious and often diverted to areas outside the intended use.

Further, where is the responsibility of these nations to solve their own problems rather than continually rely on a monetary solution from a foreign entity?


Its over the ideological spat, where we don't want aid money going for abortions and that kind of health care.

An argument can be made that suggests this style of healthcare treats the (societal) symptom rather than the core issue. By in large, will abortion clinics act as a very expensive form of retro-active contraception?
 

Curiosity

Senate Member
Jul 30, 2005
7,326
138
63
California
Is it known fact Obama actually supports Israel?

With his leadership coming from that region of our world, I would think his preferences and goals are far more aligned with Israel's enemies. He is a phony "frontman" for USA assistance to Israel.

Please argue this with me if you have more evidence as it is not a topic I am that familiar with.

Another point I would like to add - why are our government authorities throughout the world using religious belief (which is a divider in itself) to dictate international
cooperation? Separation of relgion and state should be the only sane way to lead any nation. Too many lives have been lost in religious sacrifice whether believers or not.
 

Praxius

Mass'Debater
Dec 18, 2007
10,677
161
63
Halifax, NS & Melbourne, VIC
THANK GOD we back Israel, and THANK GOD we have a leader strong enough not to bend to the Jew Haters just for a seat on the Council Of Hypocrites and Idiots.

No point in responding to the God thanking, I suppose that's your prerogative..... but when you decide to lump everybody who has a problem with the country Israel or more directly, their government and therefore have no desire to support them, as "Jew Haters".... then you're no better then the actual Jew haters who really hate every Jewish person on this planet..... and you're certainly not winning over more friends by being so damn ignorant.

If you don't believe what I believe and if you don't support what I support, then I'm going to start calling you ignorant names until you do.

Yeah, real mature.

AND, the USA simply not supporting us does not constitute them scuttling our bid for a seat.
Sure it does.... I thought they were supposed to be like this country's best friend or something.... I thought we were supposed to bend over backwards and do whatever they say like the bitches we are and to have a clone Bush Jr as Prime Minister so that we can be just like them........ one would think they would have tossed some support our way as well, but I guess they have less balls then we do.

To be perfectly honest, I think it's a good thing the US didn't support us, or many other countries for that matter..... because it's a big slap in the face sign telling those incompetent in out nation that we're on the completely wrong track, with the completely wrong government and completely wrong idiot for Prime Minister.

It's just one more example on the pile of examples as to why Harper and his goons are the worst thing to happen to this country in many years.

And yet the really sad thing is that when things like this happen..... when something happens to or in this country that normal people would consider as a bad thing, like not being a part of the security council for the first time in history because nobody likes us...... Harper supporters first shift blame and when that doesn't work, they shrug it off as being something trivial and nothing to be concerned about.

I suppose our nation's long lasting reputation isn't something to be concerned about, I guess our continually record breaking low turnouts for elections aren't anything to be concerned about..... I suppose the fact that our government hasn't improved in corruption, but rather gotten worse and less and less real work is actually being done isn't anything to worry about......

Yes.... because unless you really give a damn about Canada, you'd vote Conservative...... vote to support a party like that?

Yeah, that's one way to express how much you give a damn about the country..... it expresses that you want to toss everything this country represents down the toilet and let this country be run by some regime you'd normally see in some 3rd world republic, only they're disguised by using expensive suits and flashing Christianity crosses and beliefs around at tax payer's expense.

All Harper wants to do with Canada is turn it into the world's largest native reserve that he decided to forget about.... leaving the majority of Canadians in total destitution and unemployment while he get's to jet around the world and vacation on fancy islands, only actually doing something... the bare minimum..... in order to toss a bone and act like he's actually doing something and that he actually gives a damn about anybody else, all the while giving us that poser smile that looks like it's operated by using some mechanical device in his mouth that he uses a remote for that's hidden in his coat.

Did I miss anything?

Yes..... Let's all THANK GOD for this wonderful government we all have which the greater majority of the country DID NOT vote for. :roll:

I thank God for this wonderful gift he bestowed upon us all.... I feel so angelic and at peace I could crap my pant from relaxing too much.

I thank God for this wonderful path our nation is taken and the leader we currently have so much, I might even start to worship God and be a good Christian once again.


"Yeah..... and I'm a Chinese Jet Pilot."
 
Last edited:

YukonJack

Time Out
Dec 26, 2008
7,026
73
48
Winnipeg
Canda has no reason to hook up with the losers on the United Nations Security Council, including three of the permanent members.
 

Liberalman

Senate Member
Mar 18, 2007
5,623
36
48
Toronto
Yes because of what Harper did to Obama when he was running for the Democratic leadership. This is Obama's bitch slap at our Prime Minister and Obama wanted Canada to stay in Afghanistan beyond 2011 and Canada said NO!.

Obama will be introducing protectionist bills in the near future to $crew Canada even more.
 

DurkaDurka

Internet Lawyer
Mar 15, 2006
10,385
129
63
Toronto
The government didn't deserve a council seat and that is the plain truth.
Our government does support Israel, so does America, so what. The
Israeli support goes too far true, but look at what they are fighting against.
Can you imagine that rabble in place of influence? The Arab world is so
divided they fight each other and when taken prisoner by one group they
just change sides, so much for real principles.
As for the other reason, the real reasons. No not support for Israel that is
a red herring, the real reason is our terrible record on international aid and
helping nations get back on their feet. Its over the ideological spat, where
we don't want aid money going for abortions and that kind of health care.
As for anyone country interfering with our bid to win a seat? Hell that is
politics, and we did our share of trying to prevent Libya from getting a seat
years ago. Some of the positions this government has taken I agree with,
even though I am more left than right. There are others that raise the
eyebrows of almost everyone.

So in order to qualify for a seat one has to bribe poor nations with foreign aid?

Yes because of what Harper did to Obama when he was running for the Democratic leadership. This is Obama's bitch slap at our Prime Minister and Obama wanted Canada to stay in Afghanistan beyond 2011 and Canada said NO!.

Obama will be introducing protectionist bills in the near future to $crew Canada even more.

You're nuts if you think this is payback from Obama. If that was the case, there more meaningful ways to hurt us then staying neutral on our desires for a seat at the council.