Detroit Files for Bankruptcy

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JLM said:
Back in the day we learned the 3 Rs (better than the kids do today) without any teachers' unions!
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Teachers have had a union monopoly in the public schools in ON since the 1920's.

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But Geez, those teachers at private schools don't have a union so how is it possible for them to teach good on those starvation wages?
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In ON most private schools pay as much as gubmint schools.

damngrumpy said:
Detroit died for a number of reasons. Free trade and corporate greed are high up on the list but not the only reasons. Automation is another workers are hardly needed to build things now.
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Tis to laugh. High taxes and gubmint union monopolies are the sole reasons for Detroit's demise. From the horse's mouth.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...rgency_manager_kevyn_orr_we_dug_the_hole.html
 
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Walter said:
Teachers have had a union monopoly in the public schools in ON since the 1920's.

In ON most private schools pay as much as gubmint schools.

Tis to laugh. High taxes and gubmint union monopolies are the sole reasons for Detroit's demise. From the horse's mouth.

Detroit Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr: "We Dug The Hole" | RealClearPolitics
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Nonsense. They couldn't build a decent vehicle, couldn't compete with Japaneses quality, didn't care if people died in their faulty junkers, wouldn't change their faulty vehicles unless forced to by government, and sent all their manufacturing out of country to cheep unskilled labourers in Mexico.
 
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Cliffy said:
Nonsense. They couldn't build a decent vehicle, couldn't compete with Japaneses quality, didn't care if people died in their faulty junkers, wouldn't change their faulty vehicles unless forced to by government, and sent all their manufacturing out of country to cheep unskilled labourers in Mexico.
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How things have changed eh? I remember back in the 50s when there were more Chevs and Pontiacs on the road than all the other makes combined.
 
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Cliffy said:
Nonsense. They couldn't build a decent vehicle, couldn't compete with Japaneses quality, didn't care if people died in their faulty junkers, wouldn't change their faulty vehicles unless forced to by government, and sent all their manufacturing out of country to cheep unskilled labourers in Mexico.
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View the video.
 
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The 100 most reliable cars of the last decade (in order)

From what I can tell from this list there's a lot of junk coming out of Detroit.

Cliffy said:
Nonsense. They couldn't build a decent vehicle, couldn't compete with Japaneses quality, didn't care if people died in their faulty junkers, wouldn't change their faulty vehicles unless forced to by government, and sent all their manufacturing out of country to cheep unskilled labourers in Mexico.
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How things have changed eh? I remember back in the 50s when there were more Chevs and Pontiacs on the road than all the other makes combined.
 
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Re: Breaking News: Detroit Files for Bankruptcy

Locutus said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/19/us/detroit-files-for-bankruptcy.html?hp

related:

Obama: I "refused to let Detroit go bankrupt" - CBS News
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Sell it to Windsor.

Detroit has enough abandoned land to equal the surface area of San Francisco... they have so many abandoned houses the lumber alone from demolition would heat the city for a year. (Okay... maybe a month during the winter.)

That in and of itself would present a hey-day to Canadian real-estate agents working in cahoots to sell land to illegal immigrants.

You know what I mean... they get a tax-credit for re-exporting aliens...

... whereupon Detroit gets repopulated by people who know how to use abandoned resources, like grass-lawns turned into gardens, such that if played right, Canada gets international cred for reducing China's population much to the gratitude of the government of that nation, while the US gets an infusion of new blood building Detroit back up with chickens and rabbits...

... While in the mean time Canada was just doing business and preserving itself as a nation.
 
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If they cut municipal pensions they should give those people the homes that can't be sold. Many are up for sale at the cost of back taxes. If they don't have the cash then give them land that doesn't earn them anything.

Some are calling for Detroit to downscale the overall size of it's jurisdiction. Chop off the outlying areas and make them regional districts accountable to themselves, not the city.
 
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Sal said:
I am not so sure about saying a high school education no longer is sufficient but you may have something there and if so, it is a HUGE problem.

The problem would then become and perhaps HAS BECOME that there is no longer a place in our society for the "average" soul. And actually, that is becoming increasingly evident. Average IQ is 100. IF our technology becoming increasingly more difficult for the average individual to cope with we, are facked.

It's all well and good for the right wingers to want every one to work, I have no difficulty with that... but that means the average job has to be at an average level. We used to be a society that functioned exactly that way. If you were smarter than average, you were lead-hand or whatever. Now a BA or at least a college diploma is required to make at least a liveable income or slightly above that. If you want to be rich you need an MA or really something more than that.

Not everyone can be a lawyer or a doctor, not everyone can process information at the speed of light. What are we going to do with them? Education...yeah okay... but that still can't make people "above average intelligence."

It just can't.
I am confused about this statement of yours. Please explain.
Same here.... please explain.
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Sorry, I was being sarcastic there.
 
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Things are going to be a changing soon in the labour department. There is going to be a demand for a "get her done" ability and attitude to be performed by people with energy and ambition who want to perform like a Swiss clock. People are eventually going to see through a bunch of diplomas and paper work and an applicant's ability to recite 20 verses of MacBeth. The bottom line will be a finished product free from flaws at the cheapest price, with an iron clad warranty.
 
Walter

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JLM said:
Hey, there is nothing new there, Walter, the exact same things have happened on a smaller scale in British Columbia in the past 40 years. Port Alberni and Trail being two examples.
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47% of BC folks are illiterate?
 
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