David Suzuki: Climate change deniers are almost extinct

[coldstream]

There is no debate. There has been no debate for twenty years since ther has been nothing to debate. Scepticism ended then. All that remained was time and shape. And, as I wrote, scientists have been too careful not to arouse panic. Politicians should have done that since they are armed with all the information.

But, the moment you deniers try to denigrate Suzuli and Gore, you are lost. It is the limit of your argument and your (lack of) knowledge.

uhh.. NOT!!..

AGW is falling apart.. it was never credible as a scientific theory... but now its real purpose.. as a political agenda and financial scam.. it self destructing as well.

Which has fools like Suzuki.. cackling and turning cartwheels around the old cauldron... their best spells and curses.. gone for naught.

 

[damngrumpy]

It like confirming a death without a death certificate. The proponents claim the
other side is denying the truth. Nothing can be further from the truth. All that
has happened is, deniers are denying the spoon fed truth from the prescription
of Dr. Suzuki.
It is about the money. Every frightening weather event is about global warming.
It is a religion now, just like Pat Robertson once saying Katrina hit Florida because
God was punishing us for our sins.
I for one see some disturbing trends and agree the weather patterns are changing.
Why? Because the weather patterns change from time to time that is why things
were worse in 1936 than they are now. Weather patterns change and climate
changes back and forth and it will do so even when dogs and cats become the
major life force on earth and we are gone.
Most of the Suzuki and other propaganda are causing most of the hot air and that
produces global warming.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

uhh.. NOT!!..

AGW is falling apart.. it was never credible as a scientific theory... but now its real purpose.. as a political agenda and financial scam.. it self destructing as well.

Which has fools like Suzuki.. cackling and turning cartwheels around the old cauldron... their best spells and curses.. gone for naught.

Silly boy!

How is it falling apart, except that civilization is because of AGW. Political and financial scandal! You will next show how that is?

 

[CDNBear]

Silly boy!

How is it falling apart, except that civilization is because of AGW. Political and financial scandal! You will next show how that is?

 

[Cabbagesandking]

It like confirming a death without a death certificate. The proponents claim the
other side is denying the truth. Nothing can be further from the truth. All that
has happened is, deniers are denying the spoon fed truth from the prescription
of Dr. Suzuki.
It is about the money. Every frightening weather event is about global warming.
It is a religion now, just like Pat Robertson once saying Katrina hit Florida because
God was punishing us for our sins.
I for one see some disturbing trends and agree the weather patterns are changing.
Why? Because the weather patterns change from time to time that is why things
were worse in 1936 than they are now. Weather patterns change and climate
changes back and forth and it will do so even when dogs and cats become the
major life force on earth and we are gone.
Most of the Suzuki and other propaganda are causing most of the hot air and that
produces global warming.

Do you just pull this from your stock pile or have you actually thought about it?

Suzuli does nothing except relay the message of the climate scientists in a form that even participants here can understand when they uncover their eyes and ears.

Weather patterns change daily, climate does not and it is extremely foolish to say it was worse in 1936 that it is now. It has not been worse in 100,000 years than it is now and we are just a little away from that being three million years.

Climate does not change back and forth except at intervals of many thousands of years. It never changes back or forth as it is changing now. In fact, the only instance of change that is comparable in speed of happening was when the Earth was struck by an asteroid.

Never in any other period of geologic history.

 

[skookumchuck]

There is a reason why Suzuki has a blog at rabble, from the whence the OP came, and not here. Independent thought can be a problem for him. Beware of hooks, crooks, and one eyed Jacks.

 

[beaker]

Interesting to hear that Vancity has opted out of their investment in Enbridge because the pipeline corporation does not have enough of a good ethical standard with respect to environmental and social consequences of their actions.
Good news. I expect that other socially conscious investment firms will be collating that lead. It raises my appreciation for the credit union movement.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Are these the same scientists who warned us about bad human genetics running amok, rallied Govts through lobbying, encourage and them eventually went on to enforce the laws they desired in a GLOBAL EFFORT?

Maybe we should ask a geneticist like Dr. David Suzuki?

It would be really damn easy to clean the genes so to speak through a threat to humanity such as global warming.

No, Petros, these are not the same scientists. Climatology is a distinct branch of science. And BTW just who were these scientists who warned us about human genetics running amok? I guess I missed that warning.

 

[coldstream]

Silly boy!

How is it falling apart, except that civilization is because of AGW. Political and financial scandal! You will next show how that is?

I'm not going to be put on the defensive.

It is your side that's proffering this foolishness, without proof, in blatant disregard for the scientific method.. propelled by fear mongering.. while proffering a prescription that will cripple the world's ability to feed its population. And it will fall foursqare into the Financial Oligarchy's designs of controlling and diminishing the world's productive capacity for its own profit.. through carbon credits.. and control of trade.

You provide the PROOF.. not the hysterical nonsense or blinding unattributed and uncontextualized data that has compromised its case so far. There is none. The whole premis that the miniscule human contribution to a fractional element in the atmosphere isn't completely overwhelmed by other climatological factors is utter nonsense.. the pablum of fools and hysterics.

It is a scam... and it is worse than that.. it is a CULT.. deeply antithetical to the human cause. One that sees humanity as a pestilence on a pristine ecosystem. It's either paganism.. or madness.. and i would suggest.. a bit of both.

 

[petros]

No, Petros, these are not the same scientists. Climatology is a distinct branch of science. And BTW just who were these scientists who warned us about human genetics running amok? I guess I missed that warning.

They are still around today. They call themselves "Planned Parenthood'.

 

[L Gilbert]

Apparently his first notable discipline has been buried, i seem to remember him originally being enamored of fruit flys. Given the crowd he hangs with it appears he still is.
They are embarrassed now so they call those of us who question AGW but do not deny change, deniers, whats up with that? Honesty is a tough row to hoe.

Yeah. "Sceptics" is a better word in general, but quite a few ignore evidence, so "deniers" kind of fits a few.

uhh.. NOT!!..

AGW is falling apart.. it was never credible as a scientific theory... but now its real purpose.. as a political agenda and financial scam.. it self destructing as well.

Which has fools like Suzuki.. cackling and turning cartwheels around the old cauldron... their best spells and curses.. gone for naught.

All mouth, no evidence as usual.

I'm not going to be put on the defensive.

It is your side that's proffering this foolishness, without proof, in blatant disregard for the scientific method.. propelled by fear mongering.. while proffering a prescription that will cripple the world's ability to feed its population. And it will fall foursqare into the Financial Oligarchy's designs of controlling and diminishing the world's productive capacity for its own profit.. through carbon credits.. and control of trade.

You provide the PROOF.. not the hysterical nonsense or blinding unattributed and uncontextualized data that has compromised its case so far. There is none. The whole premis that the miniscule human contribution to a fractional element in the atmosphere isn't completely overwhelmed by other climatological factors is utter nonsense.. the pablum of fools and hysterics.

It is a scam... and it is worse than that.. it is a CULT.. deeply antithetical to the human cause. One that sees humanity as a pestilence on a pristine ecosystem. It's either paganism.. or madness.. and i would suggest.. a bit of both.

Where's your proof that it's all nonsense?

 

[Bar Sinister]

They are still around today. They call themselves "Planned Parenthood'.

Sorry. I made the mistake of taking your comment seriously.

 

[petros]

Sorry. I made the mistake of taking your comment seriously.

We all know the fast track to achieving ridiculous goals outlined by the AGW sect would be from eugenics.

Don't be afraid to admit it. A couple Billion defectives removed would substantially up the odds of human survival.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

We all know the fast track to achieving ridiculous goals outlined by the AGW sect would be from eugenics.

Don't be afraid to admit it. A couple Billion defectives removed would substantially up the odds of human survival.

We will not let them remove you. There will be exemptions for the most amusing idiots.

 

[petros]

We will not let them remove you. There will be exemptions for the most amusing idiots.

Too bad you're just an idiot.

 

[EagleSmack]

I do believe in spooks, I do belive in spooks, I do, I do, I do belive in spooks

 

[beaker]

Unfortunately the Save the Denier Conservation Society has deep pockets. Mostly foreign based, these so called do gooders really only have their own shallow interests, and deep pockets at heart. You can't make me believe that their propping up the zoo for this endangered species is because we actually need them, always getting in the way of economic development. I suspect that there is a deeper symbiotic, or parasitic, if you will, relationship that forces their co-dependence.

I say let them go, they aren't pretty like moss, or beetles, not wise like owls, not even close to majestic like tigers. Who needs em

 

[EagleSmack]

Huh?

 

[petros]

He loves butterflies but hates caterpillars.

 

[beaker]

He loves butterflies but hates caterpillars.

I think that hate is too strong a word. For example, I don't expect that the people willing to lose salmon streams in the name of development hate salmon. Or people willIng to lose the Kermodi spirit bear in the name of jobs hate the white bears. Et cetera, et cetera, et f'ing cetera. No, I expect they don't see any value in keeping other species alive. Maybe we could work out a system of cost/benefit analysis that would allow deniers the opportunity to prove their worth.