CUPW Blamed For Privatization

[Liberalman]

CUPW Blamed For Privatization

I did some research on whose to blame for the privatization of the Canadian postal service and it falls directly on the Canadian Union Of Postal Workers or CUPW.

Before 1981 the federal government operated the Canadian postal service and their employees worked for the government of Canada.

At that time there was two main unions the Letter Carrier Union Of Canada or LCUC or essentially the outside workers which included the people that delivered the mail and the truck and van drivers and CUPW who were the inside workers who sorted the mail in the processing plants.

CUPW got discontented in negotiating with the government and pressured the government into becoming a crown corporation, which at first did not want to do but because of the constant pressure finally gave in and Canada Post became the new crown corporation.

CUPW was happy because they got to get agreements from another board.

LCUC was against the idea of the postal service becoming a crown corporation because they felt at the time that the taxpayers owned the post office and service to smaller communities would be dropped and since the main purpose of a crown corporation was to make money there would be a lot more job loss but because of the greed of the CUPW they got what they wanted and over the past 30 years LCUC was proved right.

Because of the governments high debt load the crown corporations will be on the selling list and Canada Post will be sold to the highest bidder.

I hope the Canadian Union Of Postal Workers is proud of their accomplishments but when you think about it was it worth it.

 

[Nuggler]

The LCUC and the CUPW merged. I forget the year. There was an election to see which one would be "in charge". LCUC lost.

Far as I know the CPC is still a crown corp. unless they've privatized in the last little while.

Canada Post would love to privatize, and it's gone a long way down that road with regards to allowing letter carriers to go straight through on their walks, use their own cars, etc. Will probably happen in the next several years.

Long as they pay my pension each month I don't give a shyte. I be long gone from there.

 

[Kakato]

I thought they usually turned a profit.

 

[Nuggler]

I thought they usually turned a profit.

Yepper, but that doesn't stop the pro-privatization people from wanting privatization.

Check out the drive to do it to us through health care.

Private companies always do it best; tank the stock market, the real estate market, jobs jobs jobs. The only thing they really do well is pay their head honchos.

 

[TenPenny]

And don't forget, Canada Post owns Purolator Courier.

 

[Walter]

Government shouldn't be in the post business.

 

[DurkaDurka]

Government shouldn't be in the post business.

Do you think a private company would willing to operate routes out of rural areas and at the prices Canada Post currently does? Doubt it.

 

[Liberalman]

With a private company running the post office 50% or the rural customers would lose their mail service or people mailing to those customers will have to pay a higher rate for the postage stamp

 

[Liberalman]

I thought they usually turned a profit.

I hear that too

 

[Walter]

Do you think a private company would willing to operate routes out of rural areas and at the prices Canada Post currently does?

Yes. Growing up on the farm in Southern Ontario, our mail was delivered and picked up by a private contractor.

 

[JLM]

I thought they usually turned a profit.

Don't see how they can do anything BUT. I sent a 41/8" X 91/2" envelope from Vernon B.C. to Grand Forks B.C. by Express post and it cost me over $10- had it have been priority post it would have cost me over $20.

 

[TenPenny]

Yes. Growing up on the farm in Southern Ontario, our mail was delivered and picked up by a private contractor.

A private contractor working for who, exactly?

Probably the same arrangement as when I was growing up.

 

[Nuggler]

Yes. Growing up on the farm in Southern Ontario, our mail was delivered and picked up by a private contractor.

They now work FOR Canada Post, belong to a union, and are hourly paid workers.

Yes, I know you would have preferred them to still be contractors, walk their routes in bare feet in winter, and have starving children, but times change; sometimes for the better.

 

[Walter]

Many Shopper's Drug Marts have postal outlets that are privately run. They have more convenient hours and locations than most government post offices.

 

[Nuggler]

Many Shopper's Drug Marts have postal outlets that are privately run. They have more convenient hours and locations than most government post offices.

Eh?
Yep, and they charge more too.
Check it out.
Don't take my word for it. Go IN and check out the postal outlet prices.

Our post office is almost dead centre of town, whereas the Shoppers Drug Mart is almost dead centre of town.

:canada:God blessem, everyone.

 

[JLM]

Eh?
Yep, and they charge more too.
Check it out.
Don't take my word for it. Go IN and check out the postal outlet prices.

Our post office is almost dead centre of town, whereas the Shoppers Drug Mart is almost dead centre of town.

:canada:God blessem, everyone.

That's a fact that was brought to my attention just the other day.

 

[TenPenny]

Many Shopper's Drug Marts have postal outlets that are privately run. They have more convenient hours and locations than most government post offices.

They are simply a retail postal outlet, run under a contract; that does not make them separate from Canada Post as a system. I don't care where I have to go to get my parcels, and I don't care if the person delivering to my superbox is a direct employee or a contractor, but Canada Post as a system for delivering mail is an essential government service, in my opinion.

 

[petros]

Yes. Growing up on the farm in Southern Ontario, our mail was delivered and picked up by a private contractor.

How big was this "Ontario farm"? It's a six mile drive to the post office where mail is picked up by western farmers. Either the farms are really tiny or those are some ridiculously lazy people who have been burdening us for far too long.

 

[JLM]

They are simply a retail postal outlet, run under a contract; that does not make them separate from Canada Post as a system. I don't care where I have to go to get my parcels, and I don't care if the person delivering to my superbox is a direct employee or a contractor, but Canada Post as a system for delivering mail is an essential government service, in my opinion.

But you might care that you have to pay more to mail a parcel than you would at the Post Office.

 

[petros]

Well here is your chance to earn a few extra dollars JLM. Vernon has lots of deadbeats who will now have to be served notices etc which because mail was govt was the "agent". So go out and start a serving biz. You'll make $$$$ out the ass.