Conservatives accuse Justin Trudeau of profiting from not-for-profits

petros

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Conservative mud slinging by any other name. Trudeau did his part for the agreed on price and a year down the road they want their money back. Not even reasonable.....
maybe nobody likes that charity? maybe they didn't advertise enough? maybe somebody on the charity board is a Spastic? I don't see anybody else returning their pay cheque when a company has a slow quarter.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Conservative mud slinging by any other name. Trudeau did his part for the agreed on price and a year down the road they want their money back. Not even reasonable.....

He did fulfill his obligations but it would have been within the spirit of the event to reimburse part of his fee. They could have notified him earlier though.


But in an email, Kate Monfette, a spokesperson for Trudeau, expressed surprise that the Grace Foundation was unhappy, noting the group "did not contact anyone for reimbursement until almost one year after the event," and had "previously indicated that they were satisfied."

I'm fairly certain that mind reading isn't part of Trudeau's toolbox.
 

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He did fulfill his obligations but it would have been within the spirit of the event to reimburse part of his fee. They could have notified him earlier though.




I'm fairly certain that mind reading isn't part of Trudeau's toolbox.

Why can MP's due to their influence make money from that.

If that was a Con he would be lumped in with Duffy and Wallin.

In my opinion it presents a conflict of interest.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Why can MP's due to their influence make money from that.

If that was a Con he would be lumped in with Duffy and Wallin.

In my opinion it presents a conflict of interest.

That's different, the senators(all of the ones in question, not just conservative) were collecting expenses they weren't entitled to.

In this case it's a private deal made between Trudeau and the charity involved and if successful he could have benefited the charity.

The line between public and private has become blurred over the years tho, so this could be a grey area.
 

Sal

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Funny, I always thought the people that were sposed to make anything from charities were the people that needed the charity in the first place. How was Turdeau entitled to any of it?
When the person doing the marketing/fund raising offered him a speaking engagement and told him what they would pay him...lots of people at the top of the charities make lots of money.

They don't seem to be giving up their salary.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Charity can be a relative term, executive salaries and "administrative" expenses can eat up most of the money coming into some charitable organizations.
 

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That's different, the senators(all of the ones in question, not just conservative) were collecting expenses they weren't entitled to.

In this case it's a private deal made between Trudeau and the charity involved and if successful he could have benefited the charity.

The line between public and private has become blurred over the years tho, so this could be a grey area.

Nope- Not a grey area- Conflict of interest.
And he showed poor judgement by not returning the funds.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Nope- Not a grey area- Conflict of interest.
And he showed poor judgement by not returning the funds.

How is it a conflict of interest, Trudeau wasn't making any legislative decisions that may have benefited him, he entered into a private agreement to speak on behalf of a charity for a fee.

As for returning the fee that's is up to Trudeau, he didn't violate the contract. He could make a charitable donation himself, but that's a personal choice.
 

Goober

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How is it a conflict of interest, Trudeau wasn't making any legislative decisions that may have benefited him, he entered into a private agreement to speak on behalf of a charity for a fee.

As for returning the fee that's is up to Trudeau, he didn't violate the contract. He could make a charitable donation himself, but that's a personal choice.
He was at the time an influential MP. Called perception of buying influence.
I am referring to a number of groups that would pay for this so called service
 

Sal

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I know. Doesn't sound very charitable to me. I expect nothing back when I give time, money, or stuff to people who need it. Typical human behavior these days, though, money and profit are way more important than people.
bingo bango...plus I have way less patience for this crappola since I worked for a not-for-profit...it's the little front line workers that do all the drudge work with the actual "people" while they big guys hold each others d icks and slap the reins.. and trust me, it ain't always for the good of the client.....the pressure is unbelieveable...and seriously, I can manipulate stats now like you wouldn't believe, what would you like them to say.....didn't take long for me to see it wasn't quite an equitable work environment and haul azz out.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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He was at the time an influential MP. Called perception of buying influence.
I am referring to a number of groups that would pay for this so called service

I'm pretty sure that Justin Trudeau isn't the only politician to speak for money at all sorts of events and organizations. You'd have a pretty tough challenge to prove that influence was exchanged for a fee over the value of the speech.

This doesn't go any deeper than an unsuccessful speaking engagement from what I see.
 

gerryh

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Why can MP's due to their influence make money from that.

If that was a Con he would be lumped in with Duffy and Wallin.

In my opinion it presents a conflict of interest.



He made a hell of a lot more from speaking engagements before he became an MP. So, suck it up buttercup. Its how he made his living.
 

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Look at the conservatives.

If this guy was really over his head, why give him more attention then all other liberal leaders before him, combined?
 

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An Evening with Justin Trudeau

http://gracefoundation.ca/2012/07/an-evening-with-justin-trudeau/ Posted July 3, 2012 in News
On Wednesday June 27, Grace Foundation hosted its inaugural fund raising event. Guest speaker Justin Trudeau spoke passionately about our roles and responsibilities as Canadians in the global community, challenging each individual to consider his or her contribution toward positive change. Following the formal presentation, audience members had an opportunity to pose questions and engage in conversation. Audience members agree it was an evening to remember.

Grace Foundation