Confused about Christ?

AnnaG

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The term is "misfire".
Vehicles backfire.
And no-one seems to have trouble understanding what I say. Your posts, on the other hand ......
 

MHz

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..... are a little more complicated.
A misfire is when nothing happens, a 'backfire' in a gun looks like this.

 

MHz

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They would have all taken the same path. The written words were spoken into being and then many copies were made.

2Th:2:5:
Remember ye not,
that,
when I was yet with you,
I told you these things?

2Pe:3:16:
As also in all his epistles,
speaking in them of these things;
in which are some things hard to be understood,
which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest,

as they do also the other scriptures,
unto their own destruction.

1Th:5:27:
I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.

That would include all the various congregations and by 100AD they had the 66 books that make up the bible as we know it.
 

DaSleeper

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2Pe:3:16: As they read make I own are 66 you them be these words it.
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in taken told Lord up unto all various unlearned copies destruction.

2Th:2:5: Remember have include that by they books bible ye they all understood,
which the also congregations the are hard that into holy spoken be you also to written yet unstable charge in 100AD was the some
They his things would you,

1Th:5:27: I these had all were being The that many which the were all as would do and this the then not, that, when brethren.
That the we and with the in same of and scriptures, unto things?
 

darkbeaver

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"The time is approaching—indeed, in some instances it has already arrived—when Christians in this country will suffer abuse for upholding the truth about marriage. We encourage our fellow Christians to stand firm in obedience to Christ, for that *obedience is the most compassionate service we can offer society. In doing so, we must strive to heal the wounds of a confused and broken culture, to foster human flourishing, and to honor the God who *created human beings in his own image, male and female. For Christ said, “I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly” (John 10:10)."
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Let us return compassion for abuse, Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ, upholding the truth about marriage in our own lives.

You are not a Christian. I have given you reams of material to support that declaration but you ignore the facts, you are what destroyed Christianity and replaced it with idolatry of the rankest kind, worship of alleged matter. Materialism pure and simple. Satan must have chortled for eighteen hundred horrible years of butchery and rape and destruction as you lot retarded the progress of humanity and you continue to insist that you are the way. You're the beast.
 

AnnaG

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..... are a little more complicated.
A misfire is when nothing happens, a 'backfire' in a gun looks like this.
Normally that is called "slamfire" but I suppose where you are from it could be called "backfire". A slamfire is when the breach fails to lock closed before the next round is fired. Kind of a premature ignition idea.
In any case, my face is just fine, thanks; pretty as usual. I've had a couple misfires but as you say, nothing occurs during those except a few cusswords.
 

Motar

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You are not a Christian. I have given you reams of material to support that declaration but you ignore the facts, you are what destroyed Christianity and replaced it with idolatry of the rankest kind, worship of alleged matter. Materialism pure and simple. Satan must have chortled for eighteen hundred horrible years of butchery and rape and destruction as you lot retarded the progress of humanity and you continue to insist that you are the way. You're the beast.

Confusion about Christ is enhanced in our day by the prominence of the spiritual prince of this world, DB. Mass media is saturated with this spirit who influences the minds and hearts of its consumers with the very things you describe in your post above - idolatry, materialism, butchery, rape and destruction. Just as Christ came to denature such things, so Christians by virtue of the Spirit of Christ in their lives repel such things. This is how you can recognize Christ in our day:

"Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper." (1 Kings 19:11-12 NIV)

Christ is the gentle whisper.
 

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Christ is the gentle whisper.
Really?

This is what the big deal about the refugees is. (based on nothing about them in the 5 years prior) If they immigrate they give up all rights back in 'the old country'. Read the previous on your own dime, its free if that scares you.

Using the link to a bible atlas all those places mentioned in Jer:25 and Da:11 can be plotted out and Revelations comes with a timeline. Even what is going on today could be promoted as biblical if the area was 'voided of civilians' and then the atomic annihilation where that city would be today could be used as the place is basically made into a parking lot for camels. That is a lot happier ending than annihilation before the exodus, whoops, voluntary moving to permanent new quarters hence there is a land without a people. (atomic isn't needed now as air/fuel woks pretty much the same without the contamination) The projection of power will come from Jerusalem (International City) but the wealthy will stay where their homes are in Belgium, protected by the 200 real nukes stored in Israel. Russia and friends are defensive as far as a military goes so the EU and area doesn't need to fear any invasion.
I could see those moves as being promoted as the way the elite moved from being the bankers to being gods. The first verse below suggest you want a god who is not insane ti begin with.

Heb:10:31:
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Zep:2:12-15:
Ye Ethiopians also,
ye shall be slain by my sword.
And he will stretch out his hand against the north,
and destroy Assyria;
and will make Nineveh a desolation,
and dry like a wilderness.
And flocks shall lie down in the midst of her,
all the beasts of the nations:

both the cormorant and the bittern shall lodge in the upper lintels of it;
their voice shall sing in the windows;
desolation shall be in the thresholds:
for he shall uncover the cedar work.
This is the rejoicing city that dwelt carelessly,
that said in her heart,
I am,
and there is none beside me:
how is she become a desolation,
a place for beasts to lie down in!
every one that passeth by her shall hiss,
and wag his hand.




Normally that is called "slamfire" but I suppose where you are from it could be called "backfire". A slamfire is when the breach fails to lock closed before the next round is fired. Kind of a premature ignition idea.
In any case, my face is just fine, thanks; pretty as usual. I've had a couple misfires but as you say, nothing occurs during those except a few cusswords.
I can probably find one where the gun is on a Battleship if that helps. Same swear words, the universal language is here again. 'Fuk, are you alright?'
 

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Confusion about Christ is enhanced in our day by the prominence of the spiritual prince of this world, DB. Mass media is saturated with this spirit who influences the minds and hearts of its consumers with the very things you describe in your post above - idolatry, materialism, butchery, rape and destruction. Just as Christ came to denature such things, so Christians by virtue of the Spirit of Christ in their lives repel such things. This is how you can recognize Christ in our day:

"Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper." (1 Kings 19:11-12 NIV)

Christ is the gentle whisper.

I am not the one confused about Christ or his twin.
 
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Really, MHz.

"Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations. He will not shout or cry out, or raise his voice in the streets. A bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out." (Isaiah 42:1-3 NIV)
 

darkbeaver

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Agree, DB. The epistle was written, not spoken.

Paul was not the author of those words an adherant yes.


But the later formulators of orthodox theology looked askance at Paul and classed him as a heretic. They would have ousted his Epistles from the canon if they had dared. For he had grown in disfavor among them. His studies were not in line with the policy of the literalizers of religious drama; he was the exponent of that Orphic-Platonic wisdom from the Chaldean and Egyptian springs that they had come to revile. He indited more than one of the grandest chapters of their Bible; yet they frowned upon him
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because his writing was not in accord with their cult-Christianity. His was cosmic Christianity. It was emblemed in terms of Platonic Gnosticism, the flower of Greek rational mysticism. Orphic paganism glows throughout that 15th chapter of Corinthians. The sublimest chapter in the Christian Bible is clearly pagan philosophy.
 

AnnaG

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What confusion? If the dude existed at all, he's long gone like Gautama Buddha, Abu al-Qasim Muhammad ibn Abd Allah ibn Abd al-Muttalib ibn Hashim (should have just called him Ab because even Muhammad is kind of longish), Lao Tzu, etc.
Something I find strange is that people that were around longer ago than Jesus was supposed to have have left personal artifacts, especially the more famous ones, and yet we don't even have a comb, toothbrush, shoe, tshirt, or whatever of Jesus'. It rather lends support to the idea that he either did not exist or else was an amalgamation of a few different people.
 

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What confusion? If the dude existed at all, he's long gone like Gautama Buddha, Abu al-Qasim Muhammad ibn Abd Allah ibn Abd al-Muttalib ibn Hashim (should have just called him Ab because even Muhammad is kind of longish), Lao Tzu, etc.
Something I find strange is that people that were around longer ago than Jesus was supposed to have have left personal artifacts, especially the more famous ones, and yet we don't even have a comb, toothbrush, shoe, tshirt, or whatever of Jesus'. It rather lends support to the idea that he either did not exist or else was an amalgamation of a few different people.
That's what you think. I have his address book.
 

AnnaG

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I trained in Anthropology. Anthropologists look for stuff like that, so an absence of supporting artifacts is very conspiciuous.

Blue cheese is yummy. Same for extra sharp cheddar or havarti. =)
 

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I knew most of that stuff about JC 20 years before Zeitgeist came out. The information can be found in hundreds of books going back to the 19th century. Jesus may or may not have existed but the Christ entity is definitely an amalgamation of many different characters and ancient gods. The problem doesn't lie with the bible but with the literal interpretation of metaphors, allegories and myths.