Computer pioneer and Nazi codebreaker Alan Turing is given posthumous royal pardon

SLM

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Ah, so then we SHOULD apply contemporary sensibilities to the past? You've been consistently arguing the opposite here, ignoring counter arguments, and at least once thinking you're entitled to tell someone to stop it. Make up your mind.

This is what happens when people try to post rationalize statements made for reasons which they do not want to admit.
 

Blackleaf

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They have, like has already been suggested, try reading more than those british rags.

I don't believe you. I think it's disgusting that you Canadians have showed no shame and no remorse for your many crimes.

Nope, no nerve, I'd be saying the same thing to brainless twats here in Canada that pull the same shyte that you just did concerning the seal hunt.

I've definitely hit a nerve. I can tell. I got no intelligent response to my comment about Canada's disgraceful clubbing to death of baby seals. I just got a whinge.

So, you have tried to drag a discussion about how the brits shamefully treated their hero's by deflection.

This thread was already deflected by damngrumpy mentioning supposed "crimes" that Britain has committed in the past, so I thought it only fair if I gave a little list - which can be extended - of all the crimes that Canada has committed.

By the way, there's a capital B in "Brits".

Your above diversions have nothing to do with the fact that britain is responsible for this man's death.

How is Britain responsible for this man's death? He committed suicide. He is responsible for his own death. And if he had never broken the law in the first place, then he would never have got into trouble. The only person to blame was himself. In fact, Turing broke the law twice. He also broke the law by committing suicide. Suicide wasn't decriminalised in England, Wales and Northern Ireland until 1961.

You're support for the laws that lead to his death show that brits still live in a backward and bigoted society.

If any country is backward and bigoted it's Canada for not allowing sex between consenting siblings. Shame on you.
 

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By the way, there's a capital B in "Brits".


Just for those who think they are important!

I've definitely hit a nerve. I can tell. I got no intelligent response to my comment about Canada's disgraceful clubbing to death of baby seals. I just got a whinge.


They are our seals, we don't stick our noses in to how you treat your seals. Sometimes it's a good idea to M.Y.O.B.
 

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I think it's disgusting that you Canadians have showed no shame and no remorse for your many crimes.

We never got caught... Til you prove anything, these 'alleged ' crimes never happened


I got no intelligent response

Of course you don't

Canada's disgraceful clubbing to death of baby seals. I just got a whinge.

The adults move way too fast

How is Britain responsible for this man's death? He committed suicide.

The failure of your society is to blame.

For shame
 

JLM

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someone asked if he was serious...I said no I think not...which means he sort of is and sort of isn't, but maybe... :p


That's what I thought, but I was worried for a second you were referring to yourself. -:)
 

Dexter Sinister

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Yes, I'd say so, but BL's too much of an intellectual lightweight to know that's what's in front of him. He can't argue a consistent position, says we shouldn't apply modern sensibilities to the past to exonerate Turing, yet Canada should do so to apologize for whatever sins he thinks it's committed, while seeming disinclined to accept that it actually has in many cases, and heaps shame on Canada for disallowing sex between consenting siblings--I don't even want to think about what might motivate that argument--while seeming unaware that Britain does too. There's no reasoning with fools.
 

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F*(Kin' low life pervert!

At least I'm not a bigot. What problem have you got in allowing consenting brothers and sisters to have sex with each other and get married? Sweden allows it. This is the 21st Century, got God's sake.

says we shouldn't apply modern sensibilities to the past to exonerate Turing

And, funnily enough, I'm right. Turing broke the law. He should have thought about the consequences that would befall him when he broke the law.

There is a HUGE difference between animals and humans (something the brits seem to have a problem recognizing).

Quite rightly. The British are a nation of animal lovers. We aren't, like Canadians, a nation of medieval barbaric savage thugs who see no problem in clubbing animals to death. SHAMEFUL.

We never got caught... Til you prove anything, these 'alleged ' crimes never happened

I don't have to prove anything. All these crimes are known to have taken place.

The adults move way too fast

It's good to know the adults manage to get out of the way of uni-celled Canadian thugs looking to club them to death. Good on them.


The failure of your society is to blame.

No. The failure of Turing to obey the laws of the land are to blame and he was, thankfully, rightfully punished.

????

Are you for real?


You call Britain backward and bigoted for outlawing sex between consenting men. So I just thought I'd point out how backward and bigoted Canada is for outlawing sex between consenting siblings. Why should consenting siblings have less right than consenting gays? After all, I look upon sex between people of the same sex as being as disgusting and wrong as some people see sex between siblings. Sweden allows marriage between siblings. Canada doesn't. Canada is a backward medieval society.