Climate change will 'lead to battles for food', says head of World Bank

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I think the types of ramifications can be quite severe, but we won't experience them for at least 100 years.

The ramifications of a possible scenario are fully dependent on the assumptions that are made.

You are absolutely right in suggesting that the consequences could be dire, however, the opposite extreme also exists in that there will be no direct link and or cause.

Either way you cut it, it's a mugs game that will never be proven/disproven in our lifetimes
 

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Pricing oil artifically higher to deal with claime change will also result in food wars. Oil is necessary to agriculture, and agriculture is the reason this planet can sustain this many humans.
It's more than oil that fills the bellies of billions. Crop sciences and critter breeding is taking leaps and bounds. Were are close to the point where a field of wheat is seeded once and harvested perpetually as a perennial.

Africa, all by it's lonesome can feed the entire planet even if population were doubled.

We haven't even come closes to exhausting sources of sustainable proteins.

People who make stupid cooments like the World Bank goofball should get himself a butterfly net from dollarama and go to town on all the bugs for a year. He'd be one of the healthiest mofos on earth and would never say something so f-cking stupid ever again.
 

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The bank has almost doubled its lending capacity to $28bn (£17bn) a year with the aim of eradicating extreme poverty by 2030 and spreading the benefits of prosperity to the poorest 40% in developing countries.

Does this sound like something a blood sucking collection of thieving pricks known as The World Bank is famous for?

What's that got to do with anything?

And am I supposed to be scared of Yanks, or something?

We know how to get from Halifax to England with big ships stuffed with heavily armed and starving Yanks. We will tell them the UK is full of free food and housing, they will eat you down to the sod.
 

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So are you guys for or against climate change as expressed by leading scientists?
 

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What science is that? Geology that proves we didn't do this. You aren't an arrogant as$hole like Mr. Peabody so why do you keep falling for mythology?

I don't believe the Greehouse Effect is mythology. I do believe the planet has heated up about 0.8 deg C in the last 100 to 150 years, and that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are a large contributor. And I predict the planet will conue to heat up at around the same rate.

If the next El Nino event doesn't bring about a temperature spike I may have to reassess.
 

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What Defines A Scientist ?

Posted on April 7, 2014 by Louis Hissink
WUWT has posted an interesting topic on what defines a scientist, in response to an article published by USA Today
According to USA Today on April 3rd and repeated on April 4th:
“Keith Baugues is not a scientist, but that didn’t stop him on a recent wintry day from expressing skepticism about global warming — something that is broadly accepted in the scientific community.”
“Baugues studied engineering at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology in Terre Haute and has spent six years at the Department of Environmental Management and nine years with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.” USA Today
A scientist is some who uses the scientific method in which a theory is proposed, an hypothesis put forward to test the theory, and a binary result expected, false or positive. Exploration geologists are probably the most experienced practitioners of the scientific method since their whole professional life involves the continual process of coming up with a theory, th
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What has actually happened is that science has become politicised, hardly surprising given the golden rule, and that the lunatics have gained control of the asylum. And there’s nothing we can do about it.
We are living during interesting times.

I found this video to be of interest. I found it particularly interesting when they talk about experts spending the amount of time studying climate change as they do compared to...the rest of us.

Humans Aren't Stupid, We Just Happen To Be Acting Very Stupidly


Do you believe they are studying climate change just because they told you they were? Until I started reading about the climate I admired Al Gores work and thought him to be a saintly person, the truth turned out to be quite different. Fraud in science is rampant. Climate science has become a political tool.
 

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What Defines A Scientist ?

Posted on April 7, 2014 by Louis Hissink
WUWT has posted an interesting topic on what defines a scientist, in response to an article published by USA Today
According to USA Today on April 3rd and repeated on April 4th:
“Keith Baugues is not a scientist, but that didn’t stop him on a recent wintry day from expressing skepticism about global warming — something that is broadly accepted in the scientific community.”
“Baugues studied engineering at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology in Terre Haute and has spent six years at the Department of Environmental Management and nine years with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.” USA Today
A scientist is some who uses the scientific method in which a theory is proposed, an hypothesis put forward to test the theory, and a binary result expected, false or positive. Exploration geologists are probably the most experienced practitioners of the scientific method since their whole professional life involves the continual process of coming up with a theory, th
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What has actually happened is that science has become politicised, hardly surprising given the golden rule, and that the lunatics have gained control of the asylum. And there’s nothing we can do about it.
We are living during interesting times.




Do you believe they are studying climate change just because they told you they were? Until I started reading about the climate I admired Al Gores work and thought him to be a saintly person, the truth turned out to be quite different. Fraud in science is rampant. Climate science has become a political tool.

Yes it has become a political tool. I haven't spent years studying it. I have no background in climate change science. I can only read as many varied sources as possible, choose non politically affiliated sources to read in depth from. I'm a complete newb. I do currently lean towards Alexandra Morton (studies aqua culture and fish farm issues) and David Suzuki and his foundations research.

I am trying to stay open and read/think critically. Thanks for engaging me in this discussion, DB.
 

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I don't believe the Greehouse Effect is mythology. I do believe the planet has heated up about 0.8 deg C in the last 100 to 150 years, and that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are a large contributor. And I predict the planet will conue to heat up at around the same rate.

If the next El Nino event doesn't bring about a temperature spike I may have to reassess.
Did you miss the soda pop link that sent Tonington off with his tail between his legs?

It,s la Nina that brings heat and drought inland. Your reassment starts today.
 
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Did you miss the soda pop link that sent Tonington off with his tail between his legs?

It,s la Nina that brings heat and drought inland. Your reassment starts today.

It seems to be El Nino that correlates with high gloabl average temperatures. As it is, they the temperatyure instrument record globally haven't risen significantly in over 15 years (although it hasn;t dopped either). There's been plenty of reasons given for this, but all the same, if the CO2 is going up, then so should the temperature, although it can be difficult to see the signal for the noise (or, conversely, it can be easy to mistake noise as a signal).