Climate change threatens to strip identity of Glacier National Park

petros

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your first "ta da" reference was a localized reference to the Swiss Alps... and spoke to fluctuation on a "multi-centennial" scale. Do you think this latest link of yours that highlights "recession unprecented during the past several millennia"... that attributes the unprecented recession "to atmospheric warming"... do you think this makes/reinforces your claim that the relatively recent glacier retreat is simply a part of a natural fluctuation?

This is how I had you pegged from the get go.

Enjoy the caribou sh¡t sandwich.
 

mentalfloss

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Even though I'm on the other side, I have to admit this is pretty funny.
 

waldo

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I doubt the glaciers are retreating in Glacier Natioonal Park. They are just normal the ebb and flows of ice formations.

USGS maintains a repeat photography project that documents glacier retreat; there are many, many photos of receding glaciers within Glacier National Park... going back, typically, 50 to 100 years and comparing them to, typically, images from 2005-2009

Remember when the Ice disappeared a few years ago at the North Pole leading to world headlines of imminent deluvian inundation and crop failure. And then 2 years later it reappeared, in conformance with a cycle that geological evidence shows happens every century or so. Nothing was reported of the failed and trumped up predictions.

as below, a prior post showing Arctic long-term melting trends for sea-ice extent and volume:
speaking of "recovery" based on a single year reference is nonsense... notwithstanding the context with Extent is single versus multi-year ice. Single year ice is that ice most readily melted in the next year's melting season. Following are the trend lines for both Extent and Volume... for an appropriate perspective on Arctic sea-ice.

What about the advancing Antarctic ice shelves.. again neatly filed and igored.

Antarctic ice-shelves are not advancing. What has increased is sea-ice extent... which is being attributed to, in part, the freezing of fresh-water melt from land-ice sheets. Of course, if you're not aware, Antarctic sea-ice melts (almost completely) each and every year... that is to say, the concept of multi-year sea-ice in the Antarctic does not exist in the same manner as currently found in areas of the Arctic.

The AGW industry are just such shameless liars and con artists. Nothing they say can be trusted.

this is somewhat novel! To you, just what is your indicated "AGW industry"?

As they should when climbing out from out of the coldest cold spell in all of the Last 10,000 years.

Caribou poo can't be argued with.

whaaa! Say it ain't so... say you're not yet another "coming out of the LIA" guy! :lol: It's a shame that another of your pet theory's has no scientific credence!
 

waldo

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Wow... that's what an Alarmist panic looks like!

you couldn't intelligently discuss a single related subject... you choose to remain in denial... simply for denials sake! It's your comfort zone! You don't know why you like it... you just feel better without all that factual sciency stuff getting in your way. That's why you revert to your strengths in dropping your cutesy images. I expect it's the only way you're able to actually contribute to these threads... isn't it?
 

darkbeaver

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been there, done that!


play nice... take your free shots... I'm going walkabout now! :lol: Maybe CU tomorrow!

OK see you tomorrow. Watch out for icey driving conditions and don't forget your mittens.



The beer and I will curl up with those this evening.


Speaking of evening it started here half an hour ago, in ten minute or so it will be dark. 4:27pm
 

Zipperfish

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Like the ice free North Pole in 2013 kinda science?

No, like the evidence indicates that the glaciers in Glacier National Park are receding.

In science the statement "Expert A was wrong about Prediction A therefore Expert B is wrong about Evidence B" is not logically coherent.

As they should when climbing out from out of the coldest cold spell in all of the Last 10,000 years.

Caribou poo can't be argued with.

You'd think so. But then there's all your posts in "our cooling world."
 

petros

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No, like the evidence indicates that the glaciers in Glacier National Park are receding.

In science the statement "Expert A was wrong about Prediction A therefore Expert B is wrong about Evidence B" is not logically coherent.



You'd think so. But then there's all your posts in "our cooling world."

Sure why not. It's a good place as any to be Anti-AGW.
 

Zipperfish

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Sure why not. It's a good place as any to be Anti-AGW.

I suppose it is. Myself, I don't think you should be anti-AGW or pro-AGW. I think you should follow the path the evidence takes you. Like most on here, your opposition to AGW is primarily ideological.