Climate change threatens to strip identity of Glacier National Park

waldo

House Member
Oct 19, 2009
3,042
0
36
Alarmist Cutting and pasting

what's "Alarmist" about showing the long-term temperature trend for the area being discussed? And... I first had to generate the image before bringing it to your attention. Is temperature... alarming to you? :lol:
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
113,458
12,844
113
Low Earth Orbit
http://m.hol.sagepub.com/search

Keywords: alpine glacier fuctuations

Abstract

Most alpine glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere reached their maximum extents of the Holocene between AD 1600 and 1850. Since the late 1800s, however, glaciers have thinned and retreated, mainly because of atmospheric warming. Glacier retreat in western Canada and other regions is exposing subfossil tree stumps, soils and plant detritus that, until recently, were beneath tens to hundreds of metres of ice. In addition, human artefacts and caribou dung are emerging from permanent snow patches many thousands of years after they were entombed. Dating of these materials indicates that many of these glaciers and snow patches are smaller today than at any time in the past several thousand years. This evidence, in turn, suggests that glacier recession in the 20th century is unprecedented during the past several millennia and that glaciers in western Canada have reached minimum extents only 150–300 years after they achieved their maximum Holocene extents.


Maximum Holocene extents.....well I'll be.

Who wants to continue?

You just can't argue with true science and caribou poo.
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
you didn't quote... you linked to an infantile image... I made fun of you!

I should have known you'd be too slow to figure it out.

When you "quote" someone you better quote what they say and not make it up.

I understand Alarmist are good at creating fiction but putting words in under other peoples quotes is frowned upon.
 

captain morgan

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 28, 2009
28,429
146
63
A Mouse Once Bit My Sister
no - you thought you were cutesy-significant by bringing up an Arctic sea-ice related prediction (made by a smallish number of individuals)... as quoted below, I simply asked you what that had to do with the OP... what it had to do with glacier retreat:

I absolutely LOVE your multiple inclusions of 'made by a smallish number of individuals'... It highlights the tenuous and feeble foundations upon which you base your failed position
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
what's "Alarmist" about showing the long-term temperature trend for the area being discussed? And... I first had to generate the image before bringing it to your attention. Is temperature... alarming to you? :lol:


 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
113,458
12,844
113
Low Earth Orbit
Caribou sh-t or was it Santa's reindeer sh¡t melting out of Western Canadian alpine glaciers?

It's like born yesterday christians claiming Satan planted dinosaur bones to trick them.

Sure, but for every one I do you must do two. Agreed?

Can't even come with half of one yet?
 

coldstream

on dbl secret probation
Oct 19, 2005
5,160
27
48
Chillliwack, BC
I doubt the glaciers are retreating in Glacier National Park. They are just natural ebbs and flows of ice formations.

Remember when the Ice disappeared a few years ago at the North Pole leading to world headlines of imminent deluvian inundation and crop failure. And then 2 years later it reappeared, in conformance with a cycle that geological evidence shows happens every century or so. Nothing was reported of the failed and trumped up predictions. What about the advancing Antarctic ice shelves.. again neatly filed and igored.

The AGW industry are just such shameless liars and con artists. Nothing they say can be trusted.
 
Last edited:

Zipperfish

House Member
Apr 12, 2013
3,688
0
36
Vancouver
The Holocene

Keywords: alpine glacier fuctuations

Abstract

Most alpine glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere reached their maximum extents of the Holocene between AD 1600 and 1850. Since the late 1800s, however, glaciers have thinned and retreated, mainly because of atmospheric warming. Glacier retreat in western Canada and other regions is exposing subfossil tree stumps, soils and plant detritus that, until recently, were beneath tens to hundreds of metres of ice. In addition, human artefacts and caribou dung are emerging from permanent snow patches many thousands of years after they were entombed. Dating of these materials indicates that many of these glaciers and snow patches are smaller today than at any time in the past several thousand years. This evidence, in turn, suggests that glacier recession in the 20th century is unprecedented during the past several millennia and that glaciers in western Canada have reached minimum extents only 150–300 years after they achieved their maximum Holocene extents.


Maximum Holocene extents.....well I'll be.

Who wants to continue?

You just can't argue with true science and caribou poo.

It says pretty clearly that glaciers are receding due to recent atmospheric warming. So, yeah, dicciult to argue with the science.
 

waldo

House Member
Oct 19, 2009
3,042
0
36
Abstract

Most alpine glaciers in the Northern Hemisphere reached their maximum extents of the Holocene between AD 1600 and 1850. Since the late 1800s, however, glaciers have thinned and retreated, mainly because of atmospheric warming. Glacier retreat in western Canada and other regions is exposing subfossil tree stumps, soils and plant detritus that, until recently, were beneath tens to hundreds of metres of ice. In addition, human artefacts and caribou dung are emerging from permanent snow patches many thousands of years after they were entombed. Dating of these materials indicates that many of these glaciers and snow patches are smaller today than at any time in the past several thousand years. This evidence, in turn, suggests that glacier recession in the 20th century is unprecedented during the past several millennia and that glaciers in western Canada have reached minimum extents only 150–300 years after they achieved their maximum Holocene extents.

Maximum Holocene extents.....well I'll be.

your first "ta da" reference was a localized reference to the Swiss Alps... and spoke to fluctuation on a "multi-centennial" scale. Do you think this latest link of yours that highlights "recession unprecented during the past several millennia"... that attributes the unprecented recession "to atmospheric warming"... do you think this makes/reinforces your claim that the relatively recent glacier retreat is simply a part of a natural fluctuation?
 

captain morgan

Hall of Fame Member
Mar 28, 2009
28,429
146
63
A Mouse Once Bit My Sister

Fun, isn't it?

These truthers can't actually provide anything tangible, instead refer to some anomalous reference to 'the science', but when that same science comes back to bite them in the a s s, it's brushed aside and excuses piled onto their already shaky foundations

When was that invented?

Pretty sure it was invented before global warming was all the rage
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
113,458
12,844
113
Low Earth Orbit
It says pretty clearly that glaciers are receding due to recent atmospheric warming. So, yeah, dicciult to argue with the science.

As they should when climbing out from out of the coldest cold spell in all of the Last 10,000 years.

Caribou poo can't be argued with.
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
your first "ta da" reference was a localized reference to the Swiss Alps... and spoke to fluctuation on a "multi-centennial" scale. Do you think this latest link of yours that highlights "recession unprecented during the past several millennia"... that attributes the unprecented recession "to atmospheric warming"... do you think this makes/reinforces your claim that the relatively recent glacier retreat is simply a part of a natural fluctuation?

failfAFNKSADFHFKfknlFJsfdsf;fkskfhjkdfh;FJSHFHFShfksjf;kFH;SHFKS;HFCLIMATECHANGE

You are a M-O-R-O-N