Whoever has the biggest tractor wins!

Appropriately for this picture....the upload code on Tiny pics was nest-egg....:lol:
Whoever has the biggest tractor wins!
Where you live, how you shop, whether you own a car and electronic devices... ALL are well within your control. Complaining loudly while changing nothing, and waiting and expecting the government to force you to change, is ridiculous, and still makes them no better than anyone else who's done nothing
Not really. The government can make investments in the auto sector to speed up the process of mass market appeal as well as the durability and function of the technology itself. It is very difficult, for instance, for the average person to be able to afford an electric car even if they did want to help out.
Now we're getting off onto a whole other tangent.... the green marketing campaign, convincing people that they can shop their way to a healthy environment is proof that propoganda can work even on the educated. Throw away your things and buy new things, that will fix the environment good. LOL!!
People aren't willing to give things up, end of story. The people who are loud about the environment don't live any differently than those who could care less.
Cars are the leading issue when it comes to domestic personal energy use? 77% of YOUR energy use is to survive winter and keep clean so you don't spread disease. If you want to live in a unheated tent with no hot water, crack on it bub.Not really. The government can make investments in the auto sector to speed up the process of mass market appeal as well as the durability and function of the technology itself. It is very difficult, for instance, for the average person to be able to afford an electric car even if they did want to help out.
Cars are the leading issue when it comes to domestic personal energy use? 77% of YOUR energy use is to survive winter and keep clean so you don't spread disease. If you want to live in a unheated tent with no hot water, crack on it bub.
Funny, I remember you being told the same thing, after doing exactly what Karrie's talking about. ;-)Spare me the manifesto.
It's reality. Light bulbs and electric cars aren't going to make things any better when staying warm and clean are what CDNs use the vast majority of their energy for. Food is number 2.
I just chose one example. Spare me the manifesto.
I imagine you would. You wouldn't want to be the caricature of what Karrie's talking about.I just picked an example.
Where you live, how you shop, whether you own a car and electronic devices... ALL are well within your control. Complaining loudly while changing nothing, and waiting and expecting the government to force you to change, is ridiculous, and still makes them no better than anyone else who's done nothing
Not really. The government can make investments in the auto sector to speed up the process of mass market appeal as well as the durability and function of the technology itself. It is very difficult, for instance, for the average person to be able to afford an electric car even if they did want to help out.
Find better ones.I just picked an example.
I think I said this already, didn't I?
Oh yes, I did.
I realize I can't stop you from behaving like a troll. IMO, the other forum users here did you a favor when they proved your opening post referenced deliberately manipulative BS. Instead of being angry, you should be grateful. If you are going to debate a subject you better trust your sources... I suggest you take that source off your favorites list and find better sources to back up your viewpoint.You just don't get it huh? Tit for tat :lol:
Happy Lenin's b-day tomorrow ....er earth day comrade.
Now we're getting off onto a whole other tangent.... the green marketing campaign, convincing people that they can shop their way to a healthy environment is proof that propoganda can work even on the educated. Throw away your things and buy new things, that will fix the environment good. LOL!!
People aren't willing to give things up, end of story. The people who are loud about the environment don't live any differently than those who could care less.
And you my friend I am sorry to say are one of those people.
I realize I can't stop you from behaving like a troll.
or Continue posting manipulative BS. But you'll just get slammed over and over.
Why not? It seems ok for you to do so...Spin it however you want.
And who should foot the bill?I'm just talking about existing policy within the constructs of the system that has been set up. The science is pretty firm, so there is no dispute about that - it's just a matter of how to propose solutions in terms of policy.
You may not be yelling of screaming, but you use all sorts of terminology to openly or covertly insinuate that anyone that doesn't swallow the koolaid, exactly as you have, is out to lunch. My fave is "Astroturfer". You seem fond of that insult.And I'm not even yelling or screaming at anyone here, but if you guys really want me to be the witch, go for it, lol
That can't be good for the environment.
It reminds me years ago seeing a Green Peace activist on TV, being filmed in front of his big log cabin and his SUV sitting in front of his house defending the use of gas-guzzling boats to harass ships at sea; and to think I use a bycicle or walk to work whenever I can.
It also reminds me of the PETA member trying to get me, a vegan, to join PETA while she herself liked McDonald's.
I could go on, but the hypocricy abounds in these movements.
Spin it however you want.
I'm just talking about existing policy within the constructs of the system that has been set up. The science is pretty firm, so there is no dispute about that - it's just a matter of how to propose solutions in terms of policy.