Chrysler threatens pullout from Canada

[SirJosephPorter]

I was reading the comments in the CBC story on the Ontario Lottery Corp. giving prizes of cars built by foriegn companies rather than Canadian Companies. It doesn't sound like most people would take a Canadian built car even if they won it in a lottery. Canadian cars are out the door as far as the public opinion there.

CanadianLove, what is a ‘Canadian car’? I didn’t think there was any Canadian car company. We have Canadian built cars, built either by American companies or by non-American foreign companies.

Are you saying that Ontario Lottery Corp is giving away as prizes cars built by foreign companies in Canada, and are not giving away cars built by American companies in Canada?

 

[lone wolf]

Who was giving away the Bricklin?

 

[JLM]

I class this with the Obama threat that they won't be buying foreign steel. They like to poke unresponsive Canada since they do nothing in reaction, except to bow obediently.

To both:

Canada has a wealth of natural resources that we could restrict from selling. No
nickel, no steel. Chrysler, if you decide to make your cars elsewhere, same goes for you.

If that doesn't work:

1/cut off all tributaries to south flowing rivers, and divert to Canadian agriculture purposes irrigation etc. Or built more power dams to make use of the new bounty of water.
2/re-route hydro power from the manic watersheds, and give it to Canadians at cut rate instead of giving it now to the US at almost free rates.
3/sell nuclear technology to N Korea.
4/open up arms trade with Russia, lower Northern defense systems NORAD. (better the enemy you always knew than the one who likes to stab you in the back.)
5/ build up a arms industry in Canada. Put people back in the factories and make money so they can buy new japanese and european cars. We made the mistake of dropping the all Canadian made Avro Arrow for the sake of the US who reqtested we do so. Best up to date fighter of it's time, and the US knows it. We were the best at ship building too, we can go back to it.
6/ pull out of the clean air group and start our own manufacturing of cars.

Many more.

Time for Canadians to realize they are a sleeping lion, so 'cmon folks send in
your complaints to your reps. Chrysler, see if you can make cars in the US without
natural resources. (Friends, you know why Chrysler is muscle flexing?, because all along even before the hypocratic Obama visit, the plan was to build more Chryslers in the US at the expense of Canadian jobs. As if it wasn't so obvious).

Andy

"Hypocratic" - That's a new one- must a hypocritical democrat. Nothing like cutting off "ones nose to spite his face".

 

[taxslave]

Good by Cry-sler. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Canadian taxpayers are not in the bail out mood and do not like threats from a bankrupt incompetently run company with a giant unpaid tax bill.

 

[Spade]

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[JLM]

Good by Cry-sler. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Canadian taxpayers are not in the bail out mood and do not like threats from a bankrupt incompetently run company with a giant unpaid tax bill.

Ones of the problems is over the past 40 years or so we've gotten to think that jobs are supposed to be permanent things and of course very few are or should be. Back when I was growing up when the boss didn't need you anymore he laid you off and there were no hard feelings, you just looked for another job. Of course in those days people generally weren't thousands dollars in debt because was very little credit except for maybe at the local grocer where you paid up every month. There was none of that crap like buy a carpet now and start paying in 5 years (meanwhile paying interest at the rate of 28%) It's just criminal how these con artists have got a hold of the young people and brainwashed them into what they have to have NOW.

 

[Tyr]

Ones of the problems is over the past 40 years or so we've gotten to think that jobs are supposed to be permanent things and of course very few are or should be. Back when I was growing up when the boss didn't need you anymore he laid you off and there were no hard feelings, you just looked for another job. Of course in those days people generally weren't thousands dollars in debt because was very little credit except for maybe at the local grocer where you paid up every month. There was none of that crap like buy a carpet now and start paying in 5 years (meanwhile paying interest at the rate of 28%) It's just criminal how these con artists have got a hold of the young people and brainwashed them into what they have to have NOW.

Ones of the problems is over the past 40 years or so we've gotten to think that jobs are supposed to be permanent things and of course very few are or should be.

I work in (to put it broadly) "Hi-tech". Most workers tend to stay in the same job for about 2 years. In the same company 3-4 yrs.

NOTHING is permanent anymore and you goes where the jobs is. It's just a fact of employment in the transient 21st century

 

[Northboy]

All brilliant ideas. Some might result in your country being slighly nuked by the US but hey, what the heck.

"Time for Canadians to realize they are a sleeping lion".
Checked your military preparedness lately or you public's sentiment on all things military (except for your long standing tradition of harboring draft dodgers).
More like the sleeping lion in the field of flowers in the Wizard of Oz.

Not likely,

The minute American units cross the border, all Banks are shut down, They're on life support anyway. America goes into a dark age much to the glee of the Chinese.

As for draft dodgers, some of the most intelligent Americans I've ever met were draft dodgers....Some cared what needless wars of greed were doing to the US.

You appear to hold Canadians in some form of contempt, albeit lighthearted, as you don't see a "threat". Typical American method of operation, always looking for the "threat". There are some novel concepts we Canadians know, such as collaboration and cooperation and pulling together through adversity.

Americans used to know it, I suggest they may need to take some lessons from their northern neighbours; or just become another deadbeat debtor nation that held a lot of promise.

And it'll all be done without a shot being fired, let alone a "nuke"

 

[Ron in Regina]

CAW keen to extend GM deal to Ford, Chrysler


By Chris Thompson , Canwest News ServiceMarch 15, 2009
Source: CAW keen to extend GM deal to Ford, Chrysler

WINDSOR, Ont. — The Canadian Auto Workers union is to begin exploratory talks with Ford and
Chrysler in the coming days to try and convince them that a deal reached with General Motors
can work for them too. :lol:

“All we’re really going to do is some exploratory bargaining with them,” CAW president Ken
Lewenza said Sunday night. “They are going to have to make a decision about what they want to
do. We are not going to break the pattern we have set. That’s the union culture.” :lol:

The GM agreement ratified last week cuts several dollars an hour off labour costs for active
employees and reduces obligations for retirees.

Chrysler vice-chairman and president Tom LaSorda told the House of Commons finance
committee in Ottawa last week his company will have to break the pattern and demanded an
hourly wage cut of $20. He threatened that Chrysler may withdraw from Canada if it fails to
achieve more substantial cuts.

On Friday, Ford’s chief of manufacturing Joe Hinrichs echoed Lasorda’s comments. 8O

Lewenza said he is disappointed with the tone coming from Ford and Chrysler.

He said the Canadian government has asked the CAW to make sacrifices, and that is what they
are doing.

Lewenza said there will be small group meetings this week with senior CAW representatives and
Ford and Chrysler representatives.

“We will go through this line by line to explain to them how it will cut their costs,” said Lewenza.

A deal in the United States between Ford and the United Autoworkers union brings total labour
costs down to $55 an hour, and to $50 an hour by 2011, in line with those of foreign automakers
with U.S. plants.

Chrysler makes large sedans in its Brampton, Ont., plant, which could be moved to U.S. plants
with more capacity. Its Windsor plant makes minivans, production of which could be moved to its
recently mothballed plant in St. Louis.

Windsor Star with files from Reuters
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[TenPenny]

I don't think anyone really cares if Chrysler pulls out of Canada - people still buy Hyundai and Volvo products here.