None of these passages you quote are a "confrontation" between "religion" and "Christianity". They could be considered a "confrontation" between Christ and the religious leaders of his time.
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None of these passages you quote are a "confrontation" between "religion" and "Christianity". They could be considered a "confrontation" between Christ and the religious leaders of his time.
If you post on religious themed threads you are religious, be that good or bad as there are two varieties.
Considering the sign was to be dead for 3 days and 3 nights how much more proof should He have provided? (it was the conclusion of one of the two bruises from Ge:3:15, the completion of the other bruise is when the celebration takes place for both bruises)
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In truth, Gerry, it is a confrontation between the religious and Christ as it is written, "The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus..." . (Matthew 16:1a NIV)
Christianity was wiped out in the third century you are confusing it with what remains christianism. And that is from a very learned theologian as well as a very long list of wise guys.
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I'm seeking an authoritative source for DB's opinion, Spade.
Is Simcha Jacobovici (the source of your History Channel YouTube video) a learned theologian or an authoritative source or a wise guy? His biographies describe him as a Canadian Israeli film director, producer, free-lance journalist and writer.
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By whose authority do you speak?(rhetorical question)
In your life, you are the only authority. Nobody can tell you what is right or wrong, good or bad. You are born with that innate knowledge and social conditioning beats that out of you and tries to replace it with someone else's authority, whether it is religious or political. You do not have to accept it. Outside of your own, all other authority is imposed. You were born free and it is your choice to remain free or give into "authority". My personal authority in these matters only pertains to me. You have to make up your own mind.
Well Motar, your OP states that it is a confrontation between religion and Christianity, I pointed out it wasn't. Nice of you to acknowledge that it really isn't a confrontation the way you described in the OP.
So, are you admitting to being wrong in the oP, or are you admitting to trolling the board by making known false statements as if they were fact?
Ya, that's what I thought. Another thing, The Pharasees, or "wise men" of the Jewish faith at that time were NOT a representation of the Jewish religion or "Faith". That is why Christ had such a problem with them. They did NOT follow Gods laws and were constantly making shyte up as they went along and twisting God's laws to suit themselves. The same thing happens today in the "Christian" religion. Religious leaders not following Christ's teachings and making shyte up to suit their own agenda.
I'm puzzled, Gerry. What in my post concerning the Jewish religious leaders' confrontation with Christ offended you most? Your tone and choice words indicate that you are offended in some way.
Well, I'm puzzled as to why you would state one thing, then when I call you on it, you change and state another. You acknowledge, contrary to your original asertion, that the versus are NOT about confrontation between religion and Christianity. It makes me think that as long as you were not called on it you would have continued to with your original false assertion. Much like the Pharisees of Christ's time.
Please allow me to clarify my position, Gerry.
Religion:
"Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, 'Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?” (Matthew 19:3 NIV)
Christianity:
“Haven’t you read,' he replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” (Matthew 19:4-6 NIV)
Religion:
“Why then,' they asked, 'did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?” (Matthew 19:7 NIV)
Christianity:
"Jesus replied, 'Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” (Matthew 19:8-9 NIV)
Once again, religion confronts Christianity, holding on to the letter of the law as the standard. In doing so, religion demonstrates that it is not only hostile towards Christ, but incapable of recognizing the spirit of the law or the Lawgiver.
and now you have flopped back to this being between "religion and Christianity" when it is not. What you are showing is that the Pharisees were hostile towards Christ. There is no argument there. The Religious leaders fall away from God's laws, and with that, the fall of the people was the reason that Christ was needed.
In my opinion, that same fall started again shortly after Christ. Men claiming to be prophets once again twisting God's laws and reintroducing laws that were made by man from the OT.
Is there a particular Plato citation that applies, DB? If so, would you be willing to share it?