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Motar

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I believe the guy or guys who wrote under the pen name James was talking about spiritual pollution. You would do well to protect yourself from all the lunatics who are coming out of the woodwork these days.

I agree, Cliffy. Spiritual and physical pollution are hazards in our suboptimal habitat.

Has our spiritual/physical domain always been polluted? If not, how did it decline?

How do we protect against this pollution?
 

Harikrish

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In discussing the virtue of prudence in Mere Christianity, C. S. Lewis states:

"God is no fonder of intellectual slackers than of any other slackers. If you are thinking of becoming a Christian, I warn you are embarking on something which is going to take the whole of you, brains and all. But, fortunately, it works the other way round. Anyone who is honestly trying to be a Christian will soon find his intelligence being sharpened: one of the reasons why it needs no special education to be a Christian is that Christianity is an education itself. That is why an uneducated believer like Bunyan was able to write a book that has astonished the whole word."

In what way(s) does Christianity sharpen intelligence? In what way(s) is Christianity an education itself?

Is that the same C. S. Lewis who said you either believe Jesus is God or believe Jesus was a lunatic or liar for making the claims he dd.
What are some of the claims Jesus made or were attributed to him.

1. Virgin birth
2. God is his Father
3. Messiah
4. God himself.
5. Sacrificial lamb for the sins of the world
6. Was given all authority over heaven and earth after his resurrection.

Historically we know Jesus had a very short ministry which lasted between 1-3 years. More is said about him than what he actually taught. The Jews rejected him as their messiah. He was tried, convicted and put to death for blasphemy. This was in accordance with God's commandment to Moses not to suffer false prophets, they must be put to death.

Deuteronomy 18: 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."

So how do Christians reconcile historical facts with their beliefs which are based mainly on faith, intelligently? How can they support a view which is in tangent with the views of the Jews , the very people God saved in the great flood, made a covenant with through Abraham, led them out of Egypt and gave them his commandments through Moses, only to turn his back on them and reach out to the Gentiles..
Is Christian intelligence evolving or is it stuck advancing antiquated beliefs borrowed from a small sectarian Jewish religion and offered to the Gentiles by the apostle Paul in an adapted form called the Pauline Christianity.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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So how do Christians reconcile historical facts with their beliefs which are based mainly on faith, intelligently? How can they support a view which is in tangent with the views of the Jews , the very people God saved in the great flood, made a covenant with through Abraham, led them out of Egypt and gave them his commandments through Moses, only to turn his back on them and reach out to the Gentiles..
Mostly by killing anybody that points out the utter risibility of their religion.
 

Harikrish

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Mostly by killing anybody that points out the utter risibility of their religion.

Sounds like an extreme religion. Imagine Christians have been praying to Jesus for over 2000 years to return so that judgment will be passed on all this billions of unbelievers. Their perseverance and patience must be fuelled by the thirst to see 3/4 of humanity sent to the pits of hell.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Sounds like an extreme religion. Imagine Christians have been praying to Jesus for over 2000 years to return so that judgment will be passed on all this billions of unbelievers. Their perseverance and patience must be fuelled by the thirst to see 3/4 of humanity sent to the pits of hell.
If Matthew 25:31-46 is anything to go by, heaven's gonna be a pretty sparsely populated place.
 

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damngrumpy

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Far too many people view the religious words as spiritual and they miss the
politics of the day. The parables and quatrains of the past were often to
ensure the people speaking and writing them got a chance to die in be instead
of on a stake.
Isn't it funny how those who go against the system or believe or practice things
outside of the churches influence are frowned upon. The churches today are the
bull work of supporting mostly one ideology of government. Think back to the time
of Christ. His ministry was not in keeping with the statuesque he was the rebel
and the sh*t disturber. What has happened is the people who would have opposed
Christianity centuries ago hijacked the whole belief system to use as a weapon
against the very free thought that was being proposed. Didn't Christ say somewhere
not to close your ears and to beware of Wolves in Sheep's Clothing.
Religion has become an addiction to conquer all the other addictions and has lost its
way. It has actually become about an instant magic solution wrapped in forgiveness
and faith rather than taking responsibility for ones actions.
Religion is not the problem, the misuse of religion on a mass scale has become the
problem because people believe in blind faith instead of doing their own thought
evaluation.
 

Harikrish

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If Matthew 25:31-46 is anything to go by, heaven's gonna be a pretty sparsely populated place.

Matthew 25: says there will be more sheep in heaven because the goats will be destroyed. Is sheep a code word for Australians because of their affinity for sheep. Just asking......!!!
 

Motar

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Sounds like an extreme religion. Imagine Christians have been praying to Jesus for over 2000 years to return so that judgment will be passed on all this billions of unbelievers. Their perseverance and patience must be fuelled by the thirst to see 3/4 of humanity sent to the pits of hell.

You predict that 3/4 of humanity will be judged unworthy of eternal fellowship with God, HK. On what is this prediction based?
 

Harikrish

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You predict that 3/4 of humanity will be judged unworthy of eternal fellowship with God, HK. On what is this prediction based?

It is based on statistics. 3/4 of the world are non-believers and according to the scriptures will be judged as such.
 

gerryh

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God's love is unconditional for his children, and we are all God's children.
 

Motar

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It is based on statistics. 3/4 of the world are non-believers and according to the scriptures will be judged as such.


Would you please post some statistical and scripture references, HK? Thanks.


Also, do you think the relative popularity of the Christ-denigrating threads on this forum support this prediction? (Are 3/4 of the posts/posters anti-Christ?) Thanks.