Total agreement with you. Prisons are a little nicer though still no matter how nice still a prison. I wouldn't mind if the terrorists were put in with the regular prison population.;-)
China executes British citizen for drug smuggling
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Total agreement with you. Prisons are a little nicer though still no matter how nice still a prison. I wouldn't mind if the terrorists were put in with the regular prison population.;-)
Here's a history of the opium issue in CHina:
History of the Opium Trade in China
I don't think any society should have to deal with drug problems, but humans will be humans .... at least until someone kills them for dealing in drugs.
History of the Opium Trade in China
I don't think any society should have to deal with drug problems, but humans will be humans .... at least until someone kills them for dealing in drugs.
i could never allow a terrorist to be put in general population, its bad enough egeneral population knows how to make weapons out of wet newspapers and paper towel rolls... Dont need no terrorist kicking a science lesson
Nobody has mentioned it lately, but we have a major open drug war going on just over the Mexican border that occasionally crosses into the U.S. They had more causalities last year than we had in Iraq. The drug cartels are taking on the Mexican army directly and seem to be at least holding their own.
Y.J. I'm really beginning to wonder if there is any hope for you. China is finally doing the right thing with these dope pushers/importers and now you go off half cocked and want half the population executed. Is there a good Shrink where you live? :lol::lol:
I was only referring to the so called hard stuff, heroin, opium coke etc. Cigarettes and alcohol are not in the same category (despite what some may think, they are not as physically addictive), though can be just as deadly.
Most addicts will tell you it is easier to kick heroin than it is to kick cigarettes. Many more people die from cigarettes and alcohol than all other drugs put together, so I think you need to revise your opinion there.
"Y.J. I'm really beginning to wonder if there is any hope for you. China is finally doing the right thing with these dope pushers/importers and now you go off half cocked and want half the population executed. Is there a good Shrink where you live? :lol::lol:"
JLM, just as I did not want all the drug addicts executed, only the pushers, I would be satisfied to execute those who push tobacco. Addicton to tobacco is worse and more destructive than any other addiction.
JLM, just as I did not want all the drug addicts executed, only the pushers, I would be satisfied to execute those who push tobacco. Addicton to tobacco is worse and more destructive than any other addiction.
I agree that more people die from cigarettes and alcohol now than all drugs mentioned, but cigarettes and alcohol do not cause the violent crimes that the drugs cause. Legalizing those drugs will not save lives either, just more people will become addicted, overdose and of course die. Thereby the death rate of drug use may that of exceed cigarettes and alcohol.
Why is it fairly easy for someone who wants to quit smoking, just stop? I also ask why is it hard for others to quit?
It is almost impossible for a heroin addict to quit cold turkey.
[SIZE=+1]Fury as China executes 'mentally ill' Briton[/SIZE]
China National News
Tuesday 29th December, 2009
(IANS)
Britain reacted with fury Tuesday as China refused to heed pleas for pardon and executed a convicted Briton who is thought to be mentally ill.China National News
Tuesday 29th December, 2009
(IANS)
Pakistan-born Akmal Shaikh, who was arrested at Urumqi airport in September 2007 for carrying four kg of heroin, became the first European to be executed by China in 50 years.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Foreign Secretary David Miliband led strong condemnations of the Chinese action, which came despite pleas that Shaikh was suffering from a form of bipolar disorder with delusions of pop stardom.
'I condemn the execution of Akmal Shaikh in the strongest terms, and am appalled and disappointed that our persistent requests for clemency have not been granted. I am particularly concerned that no mental health assessment was undertaken,' Brown said.
Miliband expressed outrage that 'specific concerns about the individual in this case were not taken into consideration despite repeated calls by the Prime Minister, Ministerial colleagues and me. These included mental health issues, and inadequate professional interpretation during the trial'.
'This is not about how much we hate the drug trade. Britain as well as China are completely committed to take it on. The issue is whether Mr Shaikh has become an additional victim of it.'
The European Union had also repeatedly raised the same concerns.
Shaikh, 53-year-old father of three, was executed by lethal injection despite frantic last-minute pleas for clemency by the British foreign ministry.
Prime Minister Brown had personally raised the issue with the Chinese premier at the Copenhagen summit and the British foreign ministry later summoned the Chinese ambassador for what was described by the media a 'diplomatic dressing down'.
The anti-death-penalty organisation Reprieve said it had medical evidence that Shaikh believed he was going to China in 2007 to record a hit single that would usher in world peace. It said he was duped into carrying a suitcase packed with heroin on a flight from Tajikistan to Urumqi.
But the ambassador claimed the Chinese judiciary was independent of the government and that the country's supreme court had made its decision
[SIZE=+1]Shaikh's execution unlikely to damage Sino-UK ties[/SIZE]
China National News
Tuesday 29th December, 2009
(ANI)
London/Beijing, Dec. 29 : Britisher Akmal Shaikh's execution in China on Wednesday for drug smuggling is unlikely to damage Sino-UK ties in the long term.China National News
Tuesday 29th December, 2009
(ANI)
Shaikh's execution, despite repeated pleas for clemency by Prime Minister Gordon Brown to President Hu Jintao, though will do nothing to improve the mood between the two countries, reports The Telegraph.
A British Embassy spokesman in Beijing described Shaikh's death sentence as a "significant issue".
It is more likely that Beijing saw the case as a question of law. China has a zero-tolerance policy towards anyone, whether Chinese or foreign, caught smuggling drugs.
While Shaikh's family and the British government believed that his mental health problems were grounds for mercy to be shown to him, China pointed to the nine pounds of heroin he was arrested with. Under Chinese criminal law, that's 80 times the amount someone can be put to death for.
Given that evidence, it was always unlikely that Hu Jintao would break with precedent and commute Shaikh's sentence, even if his execution is unlikely to deter future drug smugglers.
Nor does Beijing agree with the British government's opposition to the death penalty.
On the contrary, there is overwhelming support among the Chinese people for its use.
It's one of the reasons why China executes more people than any other country in the world -- 1718 in 2008 according to Amnesty International.
Why is it that people like drug smugglers think they can use a mentally ill defense. He got what he deserved, a quick death. "China pointed to the nine pounds of heroin he was arrested with. Under Chinese criminal law, that's 80 times the amount someone can be put to death for." there is no excuse.
Britain is a country which worships celebrities who take drugs. Kate Moss and Pete Docherty are treated as Gods by a celebrity-obsessed public, and their drug-taking antics are let off lightly by lenient courts. So it comes as no surprise that the left-wing British government is up in arms about this execution, despite the fact that Shaikh's links to Britain are tenuous. He was born in Pakistan, lived in the US for years before moving to Poland.
A similar case occurred in the US in 2002. The British government were furious that a "British citizen", Tracy Lee Housel, was about to be executed by the state of Georgia despite the fact that he robbed and raped a woman before strangling her and crushing her head. Housel was actually from Bermuda and had never stepped foot in Britain in his life.
The British government is obsessed with human rights (of criminals, not victims) and has signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights. However, no country outside of Europe is signed up to the Convention.
Instead of harping on to the Chinese and Americans of respecting the human rights of accused drug smugglers and murderers, maybe the British Government should take an equally firm stance as the Chinese and Yanks and re-introduce the death penalty for such people.
"Britain is completely opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances", said David "Banana Boy" Miliband. Maybe someone should tell him that 90% of the Chinese people are for it.
A similar case occurred in the US in 2002. The British government were furious that a "British citizen", Tracy Lee Housel, was about to be executed by the state of Georgia despite the fact that he robbed and raped a woman before strangling her and crushing her head. Housel was actually from Bermuda and had never stepped foot in Britain in his life.
The British government is obsessed with human rights (of criminals, not victims) and has signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights. However, no country outside of Europe is signed up to the Convention.
Instead of harping on to the Chinese and Americans of respecting the human rights of accused drug smugglers and murderers, maybe the British Government should take an equally firm stance as the Chinese and Yanks and re-introduce the death penalty for such people.
"Britain is completely opposed to the death penalty in all circumstances", said David "Banana Boy" Miliband. Maybe someone should tell him that 90% of the Chinese people are for it.
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I have it from good sources that he was drowned in a vat of wonton soup.
Talk about fast.
Good on ya, Chinese govt.
As far as being mentally ill, wouldn't you have to be, to attempt to smuggle drugs into China...........?
........now he's cured.
good stuff.:mrgreen:
Talk about fast.
Good on ya, Chinese govt.
As far as being mentally ill, wouldn't you have to be, to attempt to smuggle drugs into China...........?........now he's cured.
good stuff.:mrgreen:
So Shaikh's family knew he was mentally ill and could be easily duped by criminals. If they didn't want him to get into any trouble, why did they allow him access to his passport and why let him travel overseas alone?
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And once again our Government ignores the minor detail - when a UK citizen breaks a law in a foreign country, they receive the punishments of that foreign country and not the soft sentences handed out to criminals in the UK.
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And once again our Government ignores the minor detail - when a UK citizen breaks a law in a foreign country, they receive the punishments of that foreign country and not the soft sentences handed out to criminals in the UK.