Child Marriage Okay

Serryah

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So...


If a 16 year old marries, and has sex with their now husband/wife to consummate the marriage... if the usually legal age of consent is 18...

Is it still abuse of a minor?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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So...


If a 16 year old marries, and has sex with their now husband/wife to consummate the marriage... if the usually legal age of consent is 18...

Is it still abuse of a minor?
There is wide variation in state laws on marriage age, and it's all state law. There is no Federal age of consent.
 

Serryah

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There is wide variation in state laws on marriage age, and it's all state law. There is no Federal age of consent.

True 'nuff.

I would think though that the party of "PROTECT TEH CHILL'EN!" would be all against marriage for "children" who are under 18. Or 25 (depending on brain development, since that's now an excuse to deny things).

It's not a shock, mind you, that they're okay with youth marriage, just it shows again the hypocrisy of a good chunk of the party.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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True 'nuff.

I would think though that the party of "PROTECT TEH CHILL'EN!" would be all against marriage for "children" who are under 18. Or 25 (depending on brain development, since that's now an excuse to deny things).

It's not a shock, mind you, that they're okay with youth marriage, just it shows again the hypocrisy of a good chunk of the party.
Nah. This is the party that thinks marital rape doesn't exist.

Don't forget the bone-deep misogyny.
 
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Jinentonix

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So...


If a 16 year old marries, and has sex with their now husband/wife to consummate the marriage... if the usually legal age of consent is 18...

Is it still abuse of a minor?
Oh sweetie, you're hilarious. In Ontario you can also get married at 16 with parental consent and it's been that way for decades. And guess what? The same law applies in YOUR province as well and has for decades.
I mean it's kinda funny that you'll shit your pants over something like this in a foreign state that has nothing to do with you while being ignorant of the marriage laws in your own province.
Where's all the do-gooder, "the children are our future" leftards in your province in regards to this? Guess they don't care abouts the chill'en either eh?
 

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Oh sweetie, you're hilarious. In Ontario you can also get married at 16 with parental consent and it's been that way for decades.

I didn't know that; good to know. What's your stance on it?

And guess what? The same law applies in YOUR province as well and has for decades.

Huh, didn't know that either, but then I never wanted to marry at 16. My stance on it? Hell no.

I mean it's kinda funny that you'll shit your pants over something like this in a foreign state that has nothing to do with you while being ignorant of the marriage laws in your own province.

Never had to look at marriage laws in my province so...

As I said above though, Hell no.

Where's all the do-gooder, "the children are our future" leftards in your province in regards to this? Guess they don't care abouts the chill'en either eh?

See, here's where you missed the point. Or maybe you didn't and you're just being your typical, hypocritical self.

The point is that for all the Republicans down there screaming about "PROTECT THE CHILDREN!", when it comes to marriage like this, the children don't matter. You have people wanting to force trans people not to be allowed, even over 21, to have to "wait" for any trans care because "the brain isn't developed fully yet". You have people wanting to refuse medical are to help kids not succumb to suicide. You've people who want to force girls who get raped to carry pregnancies to term regardless of age.

And yet at the same time, getting married young is a-okay so long as momma and daddy agree (or a judge). And THAT is what my issue is. The blatant hypocrisy of it.

I've not once before this post gave MY opinion on the matter at all. Now, I'm sure there are those who either a) think a 16 year old can choose to marry and be okay, but it's also likely b) there are many who live here who have no clue either that 16 is a legally allowable age to marry.

As I said above, hell. No.

You want to be married? You need to be at LEAST 19. No mommy and daddy permission exemptions.
 

Jinentonix

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I didn't know that; good to know. What's your stance on it?



Huh, didn't know that either, but then I never wanted to marry at 16. My stance on it? Hell no.



Never had to look at marriage laws in my province so...

As I said above though, Hell no.



See, here's where you missed the point. Or maybe you didn't and you're just being your typical, hypocritical self.

The point is that for all the Republicans down there screaming about "PROTECT THE CHILDREN!", when it comes to marriage like this, the children don't matter. You have people wanting to force trans people not to be allowed, even over 21, to have to "wait" for any trans care because "the brain isn't developed fully yet". You have people wanting to refuse medical are to help kids not succumb to suicide. You've people who want to force girls who get raped to carry pregnancies to term regardless of age.

And yet at the same time, getting married young is a-okay so long as momma and daddy agree (or a judge). And THAT is what my issue is. The blatant hypocrisy of it.

I've not once before this post gave MY opinion on the matter at all. Now, I'm sure there are those who either a) think a 16 year old can choose to marry and be okay, but it's also likely b) there are many who live here who have no clue either that 16 is a legally allowable age to marry.

As I said above, hell. No.

You want to be married? You need to be at LEAST 19. No mommy and daddy permission exemptions.
I'm gonna tackle that last sentence first. I agree. In fact, if you want to drive or vote you gotta be at least 19 too.

As for the rest, you may take issue with marriage at 16 but it sounds like you're just mad about Republicans and West Virginny's courts for not "reacting" the way you want them to. Despite the fact that being allowed to marry at 16 is FAR from being relegated to just Hillbillies and backwards-ass country fucks.

In fact every province and territory in Canada allows marriage under 18 years of age.

From Wikipedia:

Minimum age by province and territory[edit]​

  • British Columbia: 19, or 16 with parental consent.[13][14]
  • Alberta: 18, or 16 with consent of all parents and legal guardians.[15]
  • Saskatchewan: 18, or 16 with a "Consent to Marriage of a Minor" form signed and completed by the parent(s) or guardian(s) in the presence of a Saskatchewan marriage licence issuer, clergy or any person authorized to take affidavits. "If the parent(s) or guardian(s) refuse to consent to the marriage, the minor can apply to a judge of either the provincial or Queen's Bench court for an order dispensing with their consent. The minor may obtain the judge's order by applying to a court house in Saskatchewan."[16]
  • Manitoba: 18.[17]
  • Ontario: 18, or 16 with written consent from both sets of parents.[18]
  • Quebec: 18, or 16 with authorization from the courts.[19]
  • New Brunswick: 18, or 16 with an affidavit of consent signed by parents or guardians.[20]
  • Nova Scotia: 19, or 17 with a signed consent form.[21]
  • Prince Edward Island: 18, or younger with a consent form signed by parent(s).[22]
  • Newfoundland and Labrador: 19, or younger wherein "special consents may be required."[23]
  • Yukon: 19, or younger with consent of parent(s) or legal guardian(s).[24]
  • Northwest Territories: 19, or younger with parental consent.[25]
  • Nunavut: 19, or 16 with parental consent.[26]

C'mon Serryah, you can't tell me not a single leftard in Canada knows any of this. It's not like it's some kind of secret. But there are those on the left pushing for 16 year olds being allowed to vote so.... Kind'a hard to argue that a 16 yr old is mature enough to make a decision that affects every single Canadian but they're not mature enough to make a decision that only affects them.
 

Serryah

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I'm gonna tackle that last sentence first. I agree. In fact, if you want to drive or vote you gotta be at least 19 too.

Eh... driving I'd be more negotiable on, but voting, yes. Then again I'd also be for having 'requirements' for voting too, like actually a quick questionnaire before you can do such. *shrug* If you're going to vote, you should know a little bit about politics.

As for the rest, you may take issue with marriage at 16 but it sounds like you're just mad about Republicans and West Virginny's courts for not "reacting" the way you want them to.

No, what I'm "mad" about is the fucking hypocrisy, as I said already. If kids are, at 16 with parents permission, able to get married and assume all responsibilities therein, then at 16 they can sign off hormones and anything else they need to transition, for example. Or parents can approve abortions without the state getting their skirts in a knot.

Despite the fact that being allowed to marry at 16 is FAR from being relegated to just Hillbillies and backwards-ass country fucks.

Yeah, already knew that, I just wasn't aware of Canadian status. I know in the US it varies state by state.

In fact every province and territory in Canada allows marriage under 18 years of age.

From Wikipedia:

Minimum age by province and territory[edit]​

  • British Columbia: 19, or 16 with parental consent.[13][14]
  • Alberta: 18, or 16 with consent of all parents and legal guardians.[15]
  • Saskatchewan: 18, or 16 with a "Consent to Marriage of a Minor" form signed and completed by the parent(s) or guardian(s) in the presence of a Saskatchewan marriage licence issuer, clergy or any person authorized to take affidavits. "If the parent(s) or guardian(s) refuse to consent to the marriage, the minor can apply to a judge of either the provincial or Queen's Bench court for an order dispensing with their consent. The minor may obtain the judge's order by applying to a court house in Saskatchewan."[16]
  • Manitoba: 18.[17]
  • Ontario: 18, or 16 with written consent from both sets of parents.[18]
  • Quebec: 18, or 16 with authorization from the courts.[19]
  • New Brunswick: 18, or 16 with an affidavit of consent signed by parents or guardians.[20]
  • Nova Scotia: 19, or 17 with a signed consent form.[21]
  • Prince Edward Island: 18, or younger with a consent form signed by parent(s).[22]
  • Newfoundland and Labrador: 19, or younger wherein "special consents may be required."[23]
  • Yukon: 19, or younger with consent of parent(s) or legal guardian(s).[24]
  • Northwest Territories: 19, or younger with parental consent.[25]
  • Nunavut: 19, or 16 with parental consent.[26]

I'd say the same for Canada too. If kids, with parents consent, can marry, then they can do other things cons may "Freak out" about.

C'mon Serryah, you can't tell me not a single leftard in Canada knows any of this.

No, I can't, because I don't know very many actual "lefttards", or people that'd care I think. They would likely have to look it up.

It's not like it's some kind of secret.

Never said it was. It's moreso a not so common event and really who the fuck cares mentality. If it doesn't directly affect people...

But there are those on the left pushing for 16 year olds being allowed to vote so....

Which is stupid but...

Kind'a hard to argue that a 16 yr old is mature enough to make a decision that affects every single Canadian but they're not mature enough to make a decision that only affects them.

Which is why I don't argue for it but against it.
 

Dixie Cup

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True 'nuff.

I would think though that the party of "PROTECT TEH CHILL'EN!" would be all against marriage for "children" who are under 18. Or 25 (depending on brain development, since that's now an excuse to deny things).

It's not a shock, mind you, that they're okay with youth marriage, just it shows again the hypocrisy of a good chunk of the party.
Don't know the circumstances so can't comment BUT just taking it from the headlines, I wouldn't have condoned it.