Epistle of James, time to move along to your other foes, I've added all I care to, bye.
Chief exorcist says the Devil is in Vatican
- Thread starter Blackleaf
- Start date
JV - Jam 2:9 - But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Even this old English translation says the very same thing.
2:9 But if ye taken persones, ye worchen synne, and ben repreued of the lawe, as trespasseris.
If the Pope is from God then he has to be able to do the signs following. Skills all the Apostles had (and a few others that had been baptized with the Holy Spirit and are named someplace in the Holy Bible). Casting out devils is a gift of the Holy Spirit, letting the devils in is not something that Holy Spirit would allow, if it was divine at the moment there would 'sins' that needs fixing. God says marriage is a Holy union, the RCC says only in certain circumstances and tries to impose it's own 'version' that can be considered to be a 'twist' from the original meaning.
When John was put in prison Jesus began to preach from inside their houses or worship. If the Pope cannot get out and about to conduct daily (twice daily) masses personally then perhaps a younger person should handle that office.
This is not meant as an 'attack on the RCC' but if you are a divine Shepherd you should not fear death and therefore not need bullet-proof things. At least Bush was young enough to duck thrown shoes, the Pope wouldn't even see it coming, either time. Nor do I see the ones around his age as being very open to learning something new from the youngest generation of Priests. Argue with the top and you probably don't go very far other that the adopt the 'stop killing imagined enemies' doctrine.
BTW, I have a brother that is a member of the RCC. So is a former business partner that he sued. I asked him how it was on Sundays with them both being in the same place. He admitted the same 'tension' was there as was there during the rest of the week. In the RCC if you do wrong to somebody, that should trust you, do you have to apologize in person or can it be 'solved' by a cash donation and a few whispered words done in secret?
M't:5:22:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
and whosoever shall say to his brother,
Raca,
shall be in danger of the council:
but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool,
shall be in danger of hell fire.
M't:5:23:
Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar,
and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
M't:5:24:
Leave there thy gift before the altar,
and go thy way;
first be reconciled to thy brother,
and then come and offer thy gift.
Don't those verses make confession in secret, to somebody not sinned against, pretty much useless when it comes to being absolved of that sin. Confession to the wronged person also makes it less likely that the same thing will happen again inn the future.
M't:5:22:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:
and whosoever shall say to his brother,
Raca,
shall be in danger of the council:
but whosoever shall say,
Thou fool,
shall be in danger of hell fire.
M't:5:23:
Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar,
and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
M't:5:24:
Leave there thy gift before the altar,
and go thy way;
first be reconciled to thy brother,
and then come and offer thy gift.
Don't those verses make confession in secret, to somebody not sinned against, pretty much useless when it comes to being absolved of that sin. Confession to the wronged person also makes it less likely that the same thing will happen again inn the future.
113. His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?"
"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it."
- The Gospel of Thomas
"It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it."
- The Gospel of Thomas
I wonder if the devil wasn't in the Vatican, how much the Vatican would have donated to Haiti and Chile. Did it donate anything or did it just send a couple messages via the clergy it already had there saying that the Christian god is with them and they should pray?
He calls you an idiot and you basically crawl on your knees in gratitude, lol. Too much, did you two plan that exchange?
And really Ger. , were my comments worse than the thread OP? Did you know the Bible makes the concept of the 'possessed' being able to cure themselves ab being a physical impossibility? They already have the mechanism in place, it is called excommunication.
This how the Pope should pray at the wailing wall in Jerusalem. Those instructions seem quite clear, translations would not alter the basic message ....... yet what Christian (the only Gentiles that pray at the wall) does what the verses say to do. Bush didn't ... who has, I say nobody.
Lu:18:10:
Two men went up into the temple to pray;
the one a Pharisee,
and the other a publican.
Lu:18:11:
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself,
God,
I thank thee,
that I am not as other men are,
extortioners,
unjust,
adulterers,
or even as this publican.
Lu:18:12:
I fast twice in the week,
I give tithes of all that I possess.
Lu:18:13:
And the publican,
standing afar off,
would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven,
but smote upon his breast,
saying,
God be merciful to me a sinner.
Lu:18:14:
I tell you,
this man went down to his house justified rather than the other:
for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
That doesn't mean there weren't an awful lot of those that sit as the congregation doing many things (time as well as money)to help in those relief efforts there and in many other impoverished areas of the world including inside the borders of the US.
Anna post something that has a bit of likelihood of coming true. You had a good start your ending is not believable in the context you painted, It should be something similar to,"Another leg of Lamb, you Majesty"
lol, relax, I was suggesting a different ending than "next business, Please".
I doubt the Vatican cares very much about anybody other than the Vatican. Their followers are not in that same boat. You ... sarcasm ... same room .... not likely lol
I may not take you seriously on some posts even when you are being quite serious. ( I can't think of an example at the moment, lol that should come as good news)
In the land of magnolias, brown recluses, and crawdads, a young relative of mine had multiple warts on both arms! Her mother took her to the local doctor. The doctor drawled, "Well, I could burn them off... or, you could try a spell."
In the town there was a small child who had a reputation for being blest with the "cure." So mother, daughter, and warts paid a visit.
"I ain't touching them warts! No way!" the child complained. But after some persuasion, the child took her hand and brushed one arm.
'My arm felt cold," my young relative said. "I rubbed my other arm on the arm that was touched."
Within a week, the warts disappeared.
In the town there was a small child who had a reputation for being blest with the "cure." So mother, daughter, and warts paid a visit.
"I ain't touching them warts! No way!" the child complained. But after some persuasion, the child took her hand and brushed one arm.
'My arm felt cold," my young relative said. "I rubbed my other arm on the arm that was touched."
Within a week, the warts disappeared.
barring access to that particular child there are a few other voodoo methods, personally I would try this one first.
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]
[SIZE=-1] [/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]
WHITE VINEGAR [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1] [SIZE=+2] 4[/SIZE] YEA[SIZE=-1] [/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]
WHITE VINEGAR [/SIZE][/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][YEA] 07/23/2009: Bryan from Sarasota, Florida writes: "i had a bit ugly common wart about the size of between a dime and a quarter above my calf on my left leg. i had used duct tape only for weeks and it did NOTHING! i then used vinegar with a q-tip and taped it daily and that did NOTHING! i then read your site and listened to the PEOPLE who said to soak a little piece of cottonball and place it over the wart and duct tape it.
now if you want it to go quickly you need to change it at least 3 TIMES a day. i changed it 3 TIMES a day and my wart turned black after 2 full days and i pulled it off.
it takes longer for most people because they're only doing it overnight. if you do change the cotton ball and tape 3 times a day you'll get rid of it quickly as i did. imagine i've had the wart at least 6 months and it's gone in only TWO DAYS!!!
any vinegar will work!!! if you've been using other methods switch to a little piece of cotton ball 3 times change a day with duct tape and it will be gone quickly."[/SIZE]
Wart Remedies on Earth Clinic, Your Source for Natural Cures.now if you want it to go quickly you need to change it at least 3 TIMES a day. i changed it 3 TIMES a day and my wart turned black after 2 full days and i pulled it off.
it takes longer for most people because they're only doing it overnight. if you do change the cotton ball and tape 3 times a day you'll get rid of it quickly as i did. imagine i've had the wart at least 6 months and it's gone in only TWO DAYS!!!
any vinegar will work!!! if you've been using other methods switch to a little piece of cotton ball 3 times change a day with duct tape and it will be gone quickly."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]
[/SIZE]
[/SIZE]
It is worth a try.
A cousin of mine swears by a similar remedy.
Coat the wart with canola oil or castor oil. Then, place a square of duct tape over the wart to keep out the air. After a few days, the wart will blacken and can be tweezered off!
A cousin of mine swears by a similar remedy.
Coat the wart with canola oil or castor oil. Then, place a square of duct tape over the wart to keep out the air. After a few days, the wart will blacken and can be tweezered off!
Unless we are discussing the RCC as a wart on the face of humanity, we are way off topic here. Where is Ron? We need to get things back on track, eh!
I saw this movie once called "The Devil in Miss Jones" and I thought it was going to be about exorcism. In fact, it had a secret code on the cover... XXX, and I figured that was the mark of the devil (like 666). Well, imagine my surprise when I watched the movie. It could be that Miss Jones was possessed by a spirit, but it didn't look too evil to me - she had an appetite for ... uh, carnal pleasures and she never seemed to be satisfied. She was very active, although her "acting skills" might not have been her own - that part could have been "the Devil in her." (And he wasn't the only one)
But, if she was possessed by the Devil, it seems that "he" could be in many different places at once. I know myself that I sometimes get led off the subject of a thread, for no apparent reason. After much thought, I suggest that the Devil might be here, right on this Forum, lying in wait for his next victim to come along so he can throw him off topic. I know that sounds like the old cliche, "The Devil made me do it!", but really...is there any other explanation?
So, it is possible that the Devil is both here and in the Vatican at the very same time. The Vatican's chief exorcist may be right, thus giving credibility to the claim made in this thread title, as long as it's with the understanding that the Vatican may not be the only place to find the old bugger.
If the Devil gets out of control here, could I suggest that we either find training on exorcism for the mods, or perhaps even consider recruiting an exorcist to rid us of the beast, or at least keep him under control. I know it's not easy to find an exorcists these days, considering that many of those professionals move around frequently as they help develop young minds, but with the technology we have today, we should be able to overcome that obstacle.
Just tryin' to be helpful...
But, if she was possessed by the Devil, it seems that "he" could be in many different places at once. I know myself that I sometimes get led off the subject of a thread, for no apparent reason. After much thought, I suggest that the Devil might be here, right on this Forum, lying in wait for his next victim to come along so he can throw him off topic. I know that sounds like the old cliche, "The Devil made me do it!", but really...is there any other explanation?
So, it is possible that the Devil is both here and in the Vatican at the very same time. The Vatican's chief exorcist may be right, thus giving credibility to the claim made in this thread title, as long as it's with the understanding that the Vatican may not be the only place to find the old bugger.
If the Devil gets out of control here, could I suggest that we either find training on exorcism for the mods, or perhaps even consider recruiting an exorcist to rid us of the beast, or at least keep him under control. I know it's not easy to find an exorcists these days, considering that many of those professionals move around frequently as they help develop young minds, but with the technology we have today, we should be able to overcome that obstacle.
Just tryin' to be helpful...