Charles Manson is Dead - for real this time
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Manson lived this long because he was protected by white supremacist prison gang. The solution for that problem is readily available:
Manson lived this long because he was protected by white supremacist prison gang. The solution for that problem is readily available:
YES! lets do that..OH LOOK! here is some!!!
Let’s not forget Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, and the Four-Finger Salute.
Most articles on the death of madman Charles Manson opened by mentioning his role in the diabolical Tate-LaBianca murders. The AP story started this way:
Charles Manson, the hippie cult leader who became the hypnotic-eyed face of evil across America after orchestrating the gruesome murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others in Los Angeles during the summer of 1969, died Sunday after nearly a half-century in prison.… The Manson Family, as his followers were called, slaughtered five of its victims on Aug. 9, 1969, at Tate’s home: the actress, who was 8½ months pregnant, coffee heiress Abigail Folger, celebrity hairdresser Jay Sebring, Polish movie director Voityck Frykowski and Steven Parent, a friend of the estate’s caretaker. Tate’s husband, “Rosemary’s Baby” director Roman Polanski, was out of the country at the time. The next night, a wealthy grocer and his wife, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, were stabbed to death in their home across town.
Charles Manson led this cult of killers. After a sensational trial that truly shocked America, Manson and four genuinely scary members of his “family” — Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel, Leslie Van Houten, and Charles “Tex” Watson — were sentenced to death. But because the California Supreme Court had struck down the death penalty, all were spared execution and instead given life sentences.
Manson had directed his “family” members to go out into the dark of night to do “something witchy.” That they did. The way they killed Sharon Tate was especially gruesome. Shortly after midnight, they stabbed Tate at least a dozen times, mutilating the beautiful actress, who was due to give birth in two weeks. Tate had reportedly begged for the life of her unborn child but was told by one of the Manson girls: “Look bitch, I don’t care about you. I don’t care if you are having a baby. You are going to die and I don’t feel a thing about it.” The Manson girls repeatedly rammed forks into Tate’s belly to kill her child. The dead baby boy was later removed from his mother’s still womb and buried with her in her arms.
Manson’s acolytes took Tate’s spilled blood and used it to paint the word “PIG” on the front door of her home.
As for the murder of the LaBiancas the next day, Manson himself tied up the couple and ordered his devotees to do the kill. They brandished their knives and ferociously hacked away. They would leave a fork sticking out of the dead belly of Leno LaBianca, a supermarket executive. The fork was used to carve the word “WAR” on his belly.
Everyone knows that Charles Manson inspired those murders. None of that is being forgotten in reports of his death. But what also shouldn’t be forgotten was how the murders inspired Bernardine Dohrn, the ’60s militant Marxist who spearheaded the Weather Underground.
That surreal, cruel moment came at the appropriately titled “War Council” held in Flint, Michigan on December 27, 1969, two days after Christmas. It was attended by some 400 student radicals from the SDS-Weathermen cabal, who promoted this political-ideological-sexual gathering as a collective “Wargasm.” For the lovely ’60s hippies, it would be (as usual) a night of radical politics, unrestrained sex, and violence.
Among the ringleaders was the late John Jacobs, who had coined a fitting slogan for the evening and for the entire movement: “We’re against everything that’s good and decent.” That became obvious when the indecent Bernardine Dohrn grabbed the microphone. “We’re about being crazy motherf—ers,” Dohrn shouted, “and scaring the sh-t out of honky America!”
It was like a radical revival meeting, with the Rev. Dohrn at the political pulpit. Inspired by the spirit — that is, some sort of spirit — Bernardine fired up her brothers and sisters with her hideous ruminations on the vicious Tate-LaBianca murders. The future professor of child education at Northwestern University School of Law — no less than founding director of the university’s Children and Family Justice Center — thrilled over the scene in the bloody Tate living room:
Dig it! First they killed those pigs. Then they ate dinner in the same room with them. Then they even shoved a fork into the victim’s stomach! Wild!
One would like to think that this gory moment appalled even the hardcore in that room, but that wouldn’t be accurate. The faithful, from Bernadine’s sweetheart, Bill Ayers, to everyone else in the hall, knew Bernardine was serious — and they dug it. As reported by Mark Rudd, one of the core leaders of SDS and the Weathermen, the assembled “instantly adopted as Weather’s salute four fingers held up in the air, invoking the fork left in Sharon Tate’s belly.”
Imagine. Just imagine. A room full of highly educated young people from some of America’s most hailed colleges. United in a grotesque four-finger salute of diabolical death.
Bill Ayers has been asked to comment on the episode. The best face that Ayers has tried to put on the event is to claim that his sweetheart was being “ironic” or had employed “rhetorical overkill” (Freudian slip?) or was speaking “partly as a joke.”
Among the former ’60s radicals who later investigated the incident is David Horowitz, today a leading conservative. Horowitz set out to document the incident, interviewing his old comrades: “In 1980, I taped interviews with thirty members of the Weather Underground who were present at the Flint War Council, including most of its leadership,” he wrote. “Not one of them thought Dohrn was anything but deadly serious.”
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/police-prosecute-girl-hate-criming-muslim-who-was-sexually-abusing-her
NO! Manson was buddies with the DEMOCRATS communist pals:
THATS WHAT PROTECTED THEIR HIGH PRIEST!!!
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"A line had been crossed that night in Flint — the first steps into a dark world. From the high altar of Rev. Dohrn’s four-finger salute flowed domestic terror cells, gunpowder, bomb-making units. A “new decade now dawned,” recalled Rudd, as “the New Red Army marched out from Flint, exhilarated and terrified.” Its members would spend the next decade literally plotting the violent overthrow of the United States of America, which (quoting their hero, Che Guevara) they declared “the Great Enemy of Mankind.”
They planned attacks, planted bombs, and engaged in murder, all along fleeing the federal authorities as fugitives on the FBI’s “Most Wanted” list. Ayers would change his name from town to town, chillingly visiting dead cemeteries where he borrowed the names of deceased babies from tombstones as his macabre aliases.
Neither Ayers or Dohrn would get prison time. Quite the contrary, both spent the 1980s earning education degrees from universities like Columbia, and in the 1990s would become professors at, respectively, University of Illinois-Chicago and Northwestern."
oh look Bill AYERS!
Bombmaker Bill Ayers Celebrates Obama’s Clemency For Bombmaker Oscar López Rivera
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/18/b...as-clemency-for-bombmaker-oscar-lopez-rivera/
So When Exactly Did Bill Ayers and Barack Obama Meet?
By Jack Cashill
In his massive new biography about Barack Obama's pre-presidential years, Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama, Pulitzer Prize-winner David Garrow makes hash out of the lie that preserved Obama's candidacy in 2008. That said, he pulls back from the implications of his own revelations to protect what remains of Obama's literary reputation.
In the way of background, during an April 2008 presidential primary debate on ABC, George Stephanopoulos said about Bill Ayers and pals, "They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He's never apologized for that." He then asked Obama, "Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?"
"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood," said Obama dismissively of Ayers. "He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from [sic] on a regular basis."
The question fueled what the L.A. Times called a "storm of criticism." The rage was directed not at Obama for his dissembling, but at Stephanopoulos for his effrontery. How dare he ask Obama about an "obscure sixties radical"? asked Michael Grunwald of Time. The media chose not to follow up. If they had, Hillary Clinton would have won the nomination.
Garrow has come along nine years too late to do Clinton any good. But after ten years researching this book and interviewing a thousand people, he reveals just how strong was the relationship between Ayers and Obama and how deep was the lie that protected it. Unfortunately, there is an element of that lie Garrow himself insists on protecting.
Garrow sticks to the story that state senator Alice Palmer asked Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn to host a fundraiser for state Senate candidate Obama in the fall of 1995 – as if they needed to be asked.
Then Garrow begins adding information. "After that gathering, Barack and Michelle began to see a great deal more of not only Bill and Bernardine but also their three closest friends, Rashid and Mona Khalidi and Carole Travis." Rashid Khalidi was a Palestinian native of radical bent then living in Chicago.
So When Exactly Did Bill Ayers and Barack Obama Meet?
By Jack Cashill
In his massive new biography about Barack Obama's pre-presidential years, Rising Star: The Making of Barack Obama, Pulitzer Prize-winner David Garrow makes hash out of the lie that preserved Obama's candidacy in 2008. That said, he pulls back from the implications of his own revelations to protect what remains of Obama's literary reputation.
In the way of background, during an April 2008 presidential primary debate on ABC, George Stephanopoulos said about Bill Ayers and pals, "They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. He's never apologized for that." He then asked Obama, "Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?"
"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood," said Obama dismissively of Ayers. "He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from [sic] on a regular basis."
The question fueled what the L.A. Times called a "storm of criticism." The rage was directed not at Obama for his dissembling, but at Stephanopoulos for his effrontery. How dare he ask Obama about an "obscure sixties radical"? asked Michael Grunwald of Time. The media chose not to follow up. If they had, Hillary Clinton would have won the nomination.
Garrow has come along nine years too late to do Clinton any good. But after ten years researching this book and interviewing a thousand people, he reveals just how strong was the relationship between Ayers and Obama and how deep was the lie that protected it. Unfortunately, there is an element of that lie Garrow himself insists on protecting.
Garrow sticks to the story that state senator Alice Palmer asked Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn to host a fundraiser for state Senate candidate Obama in the fall of 1995 – as if they needed to be asked.
Then Garrow begins adding information. "After that gathering, Barack and Michelle began to see a great deal more of not only Bill and Bernardine but also their three closest friends, Rashid and Mona Khalidi and Carole Travis." Rashid Khalidi was a Palestinian native of radical bent then living in Chicago.
Honestly, after a hundred or so MF threads, this NAZI projectionism the left keeps using like the way they use their sexuality, is wearing pretty darn thin.
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I kind of like the old adage "there's an exception to every rule". It should be instated whenever deemed beneficial. Maybe he, Olson, Bernardo and Pickton could have been "done" in a group ceremony.
Yup. The poor guy must be delusional to think that someone like Manson who preached racial war and openly wore a Nazi symbol was somehow a patron of left wing politics. Utter delusionalism.
‘MURDERABILIA’ MONEY: Judge aims to referee scrap over Charles Manson’s remains, estate
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This Aug. 14, 2017, file photo provided by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation shows Charles Manson.
By Brian Melley, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
LOS ANGELES — The battle brewing over the estate of Charles Manson entered court Monday, though it remains unclear where it will ultimately be fought or whether others will join a pen pal and purported grandson laying claim to the cult leader’s possessions and body.
The issue of venue is clouded because Manson, 83, died at a hospital in Kern County in November but was incarcerated in Corcoran State Prison in neighbouring Kings County. His body is still being held at the coroner’s office in Bakersfield.
Death certificate says Charles Manson died of heart failure
Relatives, others want remains of cult leader Charles Manson
Attorney Alan Davis, representing the proposed administrator of the estate for purported grandson Jason Freeman, said Los Angeles County is the proper venue because Manson lived there before he was imprisoned for orchestrating the 1969 killings of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and eight other people.
An increase to the minimum wage is not really done for economic reasons. It is political, which is why politicians say economically stupid things when defending it. Regarding Ontario’s sudden and significant increase to the minimum wage, along with other expensive demands on business, Labour Minister Kevin Flynn said last week that if an employer pays people a higher wage, workers will spend it, so why would you lay people off? To businesses who lay people off because of a hike in the minimum wage, he said: “That doesn’t make sense to me. If I’ve got more customers coming in the door, I’m hiring staff.” Get that? You get rich by paying your employees more to be your customers. Everybody just stands around handing one another money in a great big circle of jerks. Flynn believes in the magic of government policy. But he ignores the fact that if the worker takes more money out of the business, the employer correspondingly has less money to spend to expand the business. Mark J. Perry, professor of economics and finance at the University of Michigan points out: “It’s an ironclad law of economics that to stimulate one group with public policies like the minimum wage, protective tariffs, or farm subsidies, another group in the economy has to be equally ‘unstimulated’.” The “unstimulated” employer can only survive by making economic choices. One is to lay some people off. Those “unstimulated” and unemployed people will not be spending more at anyone’s businesses. Another is to raise prices. Not only could that negatively impact sales, customers who buy the now more expensive product or service will have less money to spend on other things. When the employer has less money, he or she spends less at other businesses. As a former business owner, Flynn must realize that an increase on one side of the ledger impacts the other side. That is why market forces do a better job of arriving at equilibrium than government policy does. Perhaps Flynn does know it and hopes we don’t, which is typical of the Ontario Liberal government. Barrie Liberal MPP Ann Hoggarth piled on, saying: “If you are going to go out of business on the backs of your employees because you can’t afford to pay them this, then perhaps you should reassess your business plan, and reassess whether you should be an employer at all.” Really Ann Hoggarth? Is that the sort of brilliant business expertise you picked up by running a teachers’ union? If Hoggarth’s argument is that inefficient businesses should go out of business, then the Wynne Liberals, based on how they have run Ontario, should all resign and go home. Can you believe the gall of someone from the most indebted sub-sovereign government in the world telling business people how to operate? A government that signed us up for expensive green energy we pay for whether we use it or not. This arrogant, ignorant and cruel dismissal of small business comes from a member of a government that allowed, according to the Auditor General, tens of millions of dollars earmarked for Ontario’s most vulnerable students, those who are poor or new to the country, to be spent covering other costs. Flynn and Hoggarth exemplify the casual disregard members of Ontario’s Liberal government show toward anyone harmed by their policies. A government that is beneath contempt. </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> " data-medium-file="" data-large-file="" width="640" height="359" src="https://postmediacanoe.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/charles_manson_remains_60796054.jpg?quality=60&strip=all&w=640&strip=all" class="wp-image-406403" />
This undated photo shows Jason Freeman. (Richard Buckley/MY Entertainment via AP)
Judge David Cowan said it was premature to make the determination and he scheduled a hearing Jan. 26 to determine where the two separate matters — who controls his estate and who gets his remains — should be decided.
Michael Channels, who said he became friends with Manson decades ago after repeatedly writing him in prison, challenged the Freeman claim. He holds a will that he said Manson signed and sent him 16 years ago.
The two-page document said Manson disinherited two known sons and any unknown children and leaves Channels the entire estate, which includes potentially lucrative rights to his image and music he wrote and recorded.
Guns N’ Roses 1993 recorded a Manson song, Look at Your Game, Girl, though royalties went to victims under a court order. Manson was also an acquaintance of Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson in 1968, and the band recorded a variation of a Manson song under the title Never Learn Not To Love.
Channels, a contractor who said he has troves of Manson memorabilia including clothing and letters, and has sold autographed cassettes and CDs of the convict’s music, disputed there’s much value to the estate.
Charles Manson. (File photo)
“I feel sorry for the other side if they do win because there’s a lot bad juju that comes along with Charles Manson,” Channels said. “It’s not all roses.”
Others have suggested Channels intends to profit off Manson’s will if he prevails.
Michael Channels speaks to reporters after a hearing in Los Angeles Superior Court in Los Angeles on Monday, Jan. 8, 2018. (AP Photo/Brian Melley)
Channels, who said he couldn’t find a lawyer willing to take the case and represents himself, said his mission is only to make sure his friend can rest in peace. He said Manson feared his body could be mutilated and tattoos put on display and ashes worn in pendants.
Court documents filed by Davis claim Freeman is the son of the late Charles Manson Jr. and the grandson of Charles Manson and his first wife, Rosalie Willis.
A man who believes Manson fathered him during a Wisconsin orgy in the late 1960s also plans to make a claim to the estate.
In this 1969 file photo, Charles Manson is escorted to his arraignment on conspiracy-murder charges in connection with the Sharon Tate murder case. (AP Photo, File)
Matt Lentz, a Los Angeles-area musician who goes by the name Matthew Roberts, has a will Manson purportedly signed in January 2017 naming him as beneficiary, said his agent, Mike Smith. He said Manson gave the will to friend and memorabilia collector Ben Gurecki, who is named as executor.
Lentz was expected in court, but didn’t show up Monday. Smith said Lentz was also having trouble finding a lawyer to take the case.
In this 1986 file photo, Charles Manson is seen in court. (AP Photo/File)
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Associated Press
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Published:
January 8, 2018
Updated:
January 8, 2018 11:06 PM EST
This Aug. 14, 2017, file photo provided by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation shows Charles Manson.
By Brian Melley, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
LOS ANGELES — The battle brewing over the estate of Charles Manson entered court Monday, though it remains unclear where it will ultimately be fought or whether others will join a pen pal and purported grandson laying claim to the cult leader’s possessions and body.
The issue of venue is clouded because Manson, 83, died at a hospital in Kern County in November but was incarcerated in Corcoran State Prison in neighbouring Kings County. His body is still being held at the coroner’s office in Bakersfield.
Death certificate says Charles Manson died of heart failure
Relatives, others want remains of cult leader Charles Manson
Attorney Alan Davis, representing the proposed administrator of the estate for purported grandson Jason Freeman, said Los Angeles County is the proper venue because Manson lived there before he was imprisoned for orchestrating the 1969 killings of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and eight other people.
An increase to the minimum wage is not really done for economic reasons. It is political, which is why politicians say economically stupid things when defending it. Regarding Ontario’s sudden and significant increase to the minimum wage, along with other expensive demands on business, Labour Minister Kevin Flynn said last week that if an employer pays people a higher wage, workers will spend it, so why would you lay people off? To businesses who lay people off because of a hike in the minimum wage, he said: “That doesn’t make sense to me. If I’ve got more customers coming in the door, I’m hiring staff.” Get that? You get rich by paying your employees more to be your customers. Everybody just stands around handing one another money in a great big circle of jerks. Flynn believes in the magic of government policy. But he ignores the fact that if the worker takes more money out of the business, the employer correspondingly has less money to spend to expand the business. Mark J. Perry, professor of economics and finance at the University of Michigan points out: “It’s an ironclad law of economics that to stimulate one group with public policies like the minimum wage, protective tariffs, or farm subsidies, another group in the economy has to be equally ‘unstimulated’.” The “unstimulated” employer can only survive by making economic choices. One is to lay some people off. Those “unstimulated” and unemployed people will not be spending more at anyone’s businesses. Another is to raise prices. Not only could that negatively impact sales, customers who buy the now more expensive product or service will have less money to spend on other things. When the employer has less money, he or she spends less at other businesses. As a former business owner, Flynn must realize that an increase on one side of the ledger impacts the other side. That is why market forces do a better job of arriving at equilibrium than government policy does. Perhaps Flynn does know it and hopes we don’t, which is typical of the Ontario Liberal government. Barrie Liberal MPP Ann Hoggarth piled on, saying: “If you are going to go out of business on the backs of your employees because you can’t afford to pay them this, then perhaps you should reassess your business plan, and reassess whether you should be an employer at all.” Really Ann Hoggarth? Is that the sort of brilliant business expertise you picked up by running a teachers’ union? If Hoggarth’s argument is that inefficient businesses should go out of business, then the Wynne Liberals, based on how they have run Ontario, should all resign and go home. Can you believe the gall of someone from the most indebted sub-sovereign government in the world telling business people how to operate? A government that signed us up for expensive green energy we pay for whether we use it or not. This arrogant, ignorant and cruel dismissal of small business comes from a member of a government that allowed, according to the Auditor General, tens of millions of dollars earmarked for Ontario’s most vulnerable students, those who are poor or new to the country, to be spent covering other costs. Flynn and Hoggarth exemplify the casual disregard members of Ontario’s Liberal government show toward anyone harmed by their policies. A government that is beneath contempt. </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> " data-medium-file="" data-large-file="" width="640" height="359" src="https://postmediacanoe.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/charles_manson_remains_60796054.jpg?quality=60&strip=all&w=640&strip=all" class="wp-image-406403" />
This undated photo shows Jason Freeman. (Richard Buckley/MY Entertainment via AP)
Judge David Cowan said it was premature to make the determination and he scheduled a hearing Jan. 26 to determine where the two separate matters — who controls his estate and who gets his remains — should be decided.
Michael Channels, who said he became friends with Manson decades ago after repeatedly writing him in prison, challenged the Freeman claim. He holds a will that he said Manson signed and sent him 16 years ago.
The two-page document said Manson disinherited two known sons and any unknown children and leaves Channels the entire estate, which includes potentially lucrative rights to his image and music he wrote and recorded.
Guns N’ Roses 1993 recorded a Manson song, Look at Your Game, Girl, though royalties went to victims under a court order. Manson was also an acquaintance of Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson in 1968, and the band recorded a variation of a Manson song under the title Never Learn Not To Love.
Channels, a contractor who said he has troves of Manson memorabilia including clothing and letters, and has sold autographed cassettes and CDs of the convict’s music, disputed there’s much value to the estate.
Charles Manson. (File photo)
“I feel sorry for the other side if they do win because there’s a lot bad juju that comes along with Charles Manson,” Channels said. “It’s not all roses.”
Others have suggested Channels intends to profit off Manson’s will if he prevails.
Michael Channels speaks to reporters after a hearing in Los Angeles Superior Court in Los Angeles on Monday, Jan. 8, 2018. (AP Photo/Brian Melley)
Channels, who said he couldn’t find a lawyer willing to take the case and represents himself, said his mission is only to make sure his friend can rest in peace. He said Manson feared his body could be mutilated and tattoos put on display and ashes worn in pendants.
Court documents filed by Davis claim Freeman is the son of the late Charles Manson Jr. and the grandson of Charles Manson and his first wife, Rosalie Willis.
A man who believes Manson fathered him during a Wisconsin orgy in the late 1960s also plans to make a claim to the estate.
In this 1969 file photo, Charles Manson is escorted to his arraignment on conspiracy-murder charges in connection with the Sharon Tate murder case. (AP Photo, File)
Matt Lentz, a Los Angeles-area musician who goes by the name Matthew Roberts, has a will Manson purportedly signed in January 2017 naming him as beneficiary, said his agent, Mike Smith. He said Manson gave the will to friend and memorabilia collector Ben Gurecki, who is named as executor.
Lentz was expected in court, but didn’t show up Monday. Smith said Lentz was also having trouble finding a lawyer to take the case.
In this 1986 file photo, Charles Manson is seen in court. (AP Photo/File)
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