CDN-Economy & Related Factors

[taxslave]

Different situation: When trump asserted that the virus was some democratic created hoax........he lost credibility. He has mismanaged it since then.......with the exception of one decision.....and that was to shut the travel from China .....into the US. He then went on to spoil that by continuously bragging about it.Trudeau not only took it seriously from the onset......he had to deal with his wife getting it....and making big decisions for the country. He also knows he is being tested and evaluated in very strict terms. We don't worship our PM the way the US does it POTUS...
Another big difference is that he is not surrounded by weak little yes men....... He surrounds himself with strong people and is receptive to their advice and wisdom. Trump believe he knows everything and considers advice an insult .
No one is saying that Trudeau is perfect or even close to it.......but he is willing to learn and adapt and change. ...and mature into a better leader as time goes on.Time will tell. as stated before..he is being tested in a way not seen in ages.

You are sadly delusional. TrudOWE was bribing third world dictators for a seat on the corrupt UN security council when he should have been dealing with problems at home. AS a result we are behind. Lots of promises to spend big money to help people in need but yet very few programs are even ready to apply for yet, never mind getting money to people that need it. TrudOWE is the poster child of incompetence. Read the biography of the chief medical officer he is depending on. SHe is nothing more than a shill for Big Pharma.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Different situation: When trump asserted that the virus was some democratic created hoax........he lost credibility. He has mismanaged it since then.......with the exception of one decision.....and that was to shut the travel from China .....into the US. He then went on to spoil that by continuously bragging about it.Trudeau not only took it seriously from the onset......he had to deal with his wife getting it....and making big decisions for the country. He also knows he is being tested and evaluated in very strict terms. We don't worship our PM the way the US does it POTUS...
Another big difference is that he is not surrounded by weak little yes men....... He surrounds himself with strong people and is receptive to their advice and wisdom. Trump believe he knows everything and considers advice an insult .
No one is saying that Trudeau is perfect or even close to it.......but he is willing to learn and adapt and change. ...and mature into a better leader as time goes on.Time will tell. as stated before..he is being tested in a way not seen in ages.

WOW, de-Nile is not just a river in Egypt, when Trump was ordering flights from China to be cancelled, Trudeau was in Africa spreading our wealth while proclaiming that drastic measures like Trump is enacting isn't needed.

 

[Nick Danger]

You are sadly delusional. TrudOWE was bribing third world dictators for a seat on the corrupt UN security council when he should have been dealing with problems at home. AS a result we are behind.

True we are way behind the US in Covid cases per million population, they have an infection rate of just over 1600 cases per million compared to Canada's 628. US deaths per million population sits at 65 compared to Canada at 18. We are ahead in testing, our rate per million population in Canada is currently at just under 11,000 compared to slightly over 8000 in the US.


(Data from worldometers.com)

 

[petros]

.Trudeau not only took it seriously from the onset......

That is the nuttiest comment I've heard in years.

 

[petros]

True we are way behind the US in Covid cases per million population, they have an infection rate of just over 1600 cases per million compared to Canada's 628. US deaths per million population sits at 65 compared to Canada at 18. We are ahead in testing, our rate per million population in Canada is currently at just under 11,000 compared to slightly over 8000 in the US.
(Data from worldometers.com)

This is why:

-The population density in Canada is 4 per Km2 (11 people per mi2). The median age in Canada is 41.1 years.

-The population density in the United States is 36 per Km2 (94 people per mi2). The median age in the United States is 38.3 years.

 

[petros]

I wonder which nanny gets the Trudeau kids after the divorce?

 

[Nick Danger]

This is why:

-The population density in Canada is 4 per Km2 (11 people per mi2). The median age in Canada is 41.1 years.

-The population density in the United States is 36 per Km2 (94 people per mi2). The median age in the United States is 38.3 years.

That doesn't really fly, petros. Population density based on total area of the country is pretty meaningless as so much of our country is unihabited. 90% of the Canadian population lives within 100 miles of the US border. And if we are to believe that the older one gets the more susceptible they are to the virus then Canada's older median age should result in higher infection rates.


The evidence suggests that the US was slower out of the starting gate, and that their responses were less effective.

 

[captain morgan]

True we are way behind the US in Covid cases per million population, they have an infection rate of just over 1600 cases per million compared to Canada's 628. US deaths per million population sits at 65 compared to Canada at 18. We are ahead in testing, our rate per million population in Canada is currently at just under 11,000 compared to slightly over 8000 in the US.


(Data from worldometers.com)

Are you curious what the applicable rates of infection/death are in the years prior to covid-19?


.... Might add a touch of perspective

 

[Nick Danger]

Are you curious what the applicable rates of infection/death are in the years prior to covid-19?

Not really. The statement was made that we are behind in our Covid-19 response, the evidence does not agree.

 

[spilledthebeer]

You do like to talk a lot alright. But I am curious as to what you would do about all of this shit going on that you believe is so true after this nonsense is all over? What or how would you go about fixing up this bloody mess of an economy that your dear leader Turdeau and the lying media have done to this once great country? Well?

POOR FOOLISH CREATURE!


You repeatedly demonstrate your lack of contact with REALITY!


The multi faceted and DETAILED answers to ALL your questions have already been posted!


Go back and READ my stuff - IF YOU CAN!



It is a fact that crazy people often have a SHORT ATTENTION SPAN - thus you may not be able to understand the details!


But your limited intellect should BE BLAMED ON YOUR GOD - and is not something to blame me for!

 

[captain morgan]

Not really. The statement was made that we are behind in our Covid-19 response, the evidence does not agree.

Too bad that you have no interest in perspective on this issue. There is the perfect comparison right there to be employed if you only choose to look

 

[spilledthebeer]

This is why:

-The population density in Canada is 4 per Km2 (11 people per mi2). The median age in Canada is 41.1 years.

-The population density in the United States is 36 per Km2 (94 people per mi2). The median age in the United States is 38.3 years.

Oh dear me - your comment about population density was LOST on the doofus!


Any country with a HIGH population density is of course very vulnerable to the Wuhan Virus!



And it seems likely that Wuhan Virus is MORE INFECTIOUS than previously thought since so many health care workers



are catching it in spite of protective measures! When Africa was working through its Ebola scare - there were NOT so many



health care workers infected! And of course we DO HAVE NEWS that people can carry and infect others without showing



symptoms thus it is MUCH HARDER to track Wuhan Virus!


In related news it seems likely that WE WILL NOT SEE any quick return to international travel as there are too many countries



in the world that were CARELESS with Wuhan infection! The lunatics in Iran top the list of hugely careless as they believed GOD



would hear their prayers and protect them - but apparently HE was busy with other things! It will probably BE MULTIPLE YEARS



before we can trust the health of an Iranian traveller!


And the Swedes have been careless as well but at least they have a modern health care system and can respond when they choose to!


But South America is going to be a CESS POOL of Virus for years to come - with tens of millions of Brazilians at the mercy of a



careless govt and the deadly virus! Infection rates in South America are likely to get SO BAD that Democrats WILL BE KICKING



THEMSELVES for not helping Trump build his wall - just to keep out Wuhan carriers! And of course even Cdn LIE-berals may shy



away from welcoming Wuhan infected illegals!


I am betting that our Cdn economy will return to relative normal in the next 8- 10 weeks but our borders will be CLOSED



to MOST TRAVELLERS for years to come - that is if LIE-berals want to avoid a resurgence of Wuhan Pestilence!

 

[spilledthebeer]

Not really. The statement was made that we are behind in our Covid-19 response, the evidence does not agree.

You are Dangerously foolish! Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals were VERY SLOW to even begin making efforts



to quarantine travellers swarming through our airports - bringing Wuhan Pestilence with them!


LIE-beral indifference has allowed Wuhan Virus to get a MUCH DEEPER HOLD on us than it should have!

 

[taxme]

Canadian economy added 35,200 jobs in December, unemployment rate falls
https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/can...in-december-unemployment-rate-falls-1.4761338

And all of those jobs are now probably gone with many more job losses still to follow and all because of the trained seals out there like you who still believe that this created virus plandemic is all for real and we are suffering from something worse than the plague. Some so called experts like globalist deep state elites like Bill Gates the now spokesman for this plandemic are saying that if "HE" cannot come up with a vaccine for this virus this lock down and no people allowed to assemble may go on for another year. Are you going to be able to put up with this nonsense for another f'n year?

Is this all really worth it to shut down pretty much the whole economy and put millions of Canadians out of work just because of some seasonal flu bug that comes around every year? I wish people like you would get your heads out of your butts and start showing a lot more intelligence rather than continue on with this sheer stupidity nonsense that most Canadians like you are well known for? Being great little globalist trained seals. Arf-arf. Lol.

 

[taxme]

POOR FOOLISH CREATURE!
You repeatedly demonstrate your lack of contact with REALITY!
The multi faceted and DETAILED answers to ALL your questions have already been posted!
Go back and READ my stuff - IF YOU CAN!
It is a fact that crazy people often have a SHORT ATTENTION SPAN - thus you may not be able to understand the details!
But your limited intellect should BE BLAMED ON YOUR GOD - and is not something to blame me for!

Chuckle-chuckle.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

And all of those jobs are now probably gone with many more job losses still to follow and all because of the trained seals out there like you who still believe that this created virus plandemic is all for real and we are suffering from something worse than the plague. Some so called experts like globalist deep state elites like Bill Gates the now spokesman for this plandemic are saying that if "HE" cannot come up with a vaccine for this virus this lock down and no people allowed to assemble may go on for another year. Are you going to be able to put up with this nonsense for another f'n year?

Is this all really worth it to shut down pretty much the whole economy and put millions of Canadians out of work just because of some seasonal flu bug that comes around every year? I wish people like you would get your heads out of your butts and start showing a lot more intelligence rather than continue on with this sheer stupidity nonsense that most Canadians like you are well known for? Being great little globalist trained seals. Arf-arf. Lol.

frustration levels getting higher?? ;-)

Only time will tell if any of these guideline are helping. Are you suggesting that no guidelines be followed?? What happens when people get sick en mass and CANNOT go to work.?? This is a fast spreading virus........so if left unchecked..(ie carry on as if nothing is happening)......could have even worse implications.

 

[Decapoda]

frustration levels getting higher?? ;-)

Only time will tell if any of these guideline are helping. Are you suggesting that no guidelines be followed?? What happens when people get sick en mass and CANNOT go to work.?? This is a fast spreading virus........so if left unchecked..(ie carry on as if nothing is happening)......could have even worse implications.

And how will time tell if it's helping? How would we know the potential results of less strict "guidelines" to compare to the complete shutdown of our economy? And what exactly is the destruction of our economy and societal structure helping anyhow?

I spoke to a fire fighter buddy last week who said they are already seeing a big spike in suicides and attempted suicides, and this is only after a few weeks. Imagine Trudeau's brain-dead scenario suggesting that "this is Canada's new normal until a vaccine is available", which will likely be 12-18 months from now, best case scenario. Has anyone considered that the devastating toll inflicted by the prevention measures may actually be worse than the virus?


I don't think anyone in their right mind is saying we should go back to normal as if nothing happened. But their has to be a balance between taking sensible precautions, and the decimation of our economy and society. Vulnerable people in our society need to be protected, but life has to go on for the rest of us, and soon. There has to be a plan to get things going again, there's no possible way our economy will survive a year of this....no way!! The damage that's already been done is staggering and likely won't be known for a while. Recovery will be measured in years....maybe decades. How about that for worse implications??

 

[petros]

That doesn't really fly, petros. Population density based on total area of the country is pretty meaningless as so much of our country is unihabited. 90% of the Canadian population lives within 100 miles of the US border. And if we are to believe that the older one gets the more susceptible they are to the virus then Canada's older median age should result in higher infection rates.
The evidence suggests that the US was slower out of the starting gate, and that their responses were less effective.

NYC. Crazy numbers right? Manhattan has 26000 per sq km. Highest density anywhere in Canada is 4100sq km.

 

[Nick Danger]

NYC. Crazy numbers right? Manhattan has 26000 per sq km. Highest density anywhere in Canada is 4100sq km.

New York City has a population density of 27,000 per square mile, Toronto and Montreal are both in between 11 and 12 thousand per square mile. Both are smaller in total area, and both have a fraction of NYC's population, but the numbers still don't add up. My math says NYC is currently dealing with 643 covid cases per square mile, while Toronto and Montreal are coming in a 10 and 38 respectively. That's a pretty big spread to lay off on population density a little over double.

I'm aware that JT doesn't have a lot of fans, but to suggest that he dropped the ball and Trump didn't is well, a real stretch.

The Canadian government is taking a lot of flack over their reaction to the pandemic, lots of folks framing it as an over reaction. I'm saying the numbers don't lie. The US was slow out of the gate and they're paying a big price. The biggest in the world in fact.

 

[pgs]

frustration levels getting higher?? ;-)

Only time will tell if any of these guideline are helping. Are you suggesting that no guidelines be followed?? What happens when people get sick en mass and CANNOT go to work.?? This is a fast spreading virus........so if left unchecked..(ie carry on as if nothing is happening)......could have even worse implications.

They can’t go to work now , so what does it matter if everyone gets it ?