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ouch, on first look, you've said 'yes, it is', in response to csanopal saying it was a stupid question
I'm trusting you meant, yes, we have a patron saint and it is Saint Jean de Brebeuf? lol
Jean de Brébeuf, author of the Huron Relation for 1635, was born at Conde-sur-vire, in Normandy, March 25, 1593. His ancestry seems to link him with William the Conqueror and St. Louis of France and even with the English Earls of Arundel. There is really very little we know of his immediate family. His father was Gilles de Brébeuf. We hear of two nephews: George, a minor poet, and Nicolas, a prior of a monastery near Caen.
http://www.craigmarlatt.com/canada/images/history&people/brebeuf.jpgBrébeuf worked primarily among the Huron Indians in Quebec, Canada. He was born near Saint-Lo, Normandy, and ordained a Roman Catholic priest in 1622. In 1625 he arrived in the New World with the French explorer Samuel de Champlain. When the village of his Jesuit mission was taken by the Iroquois, Brébeuf and the French Jesuit missionary Gabriel Lalemant, his associate, were made prisoners and tortured to death in 1649. The tortures they endured are considered among the most hideous in the entire history of martyrdom.
His memory is cherished in Canada more than that of all the other early missionaries. His heroic virtues, manifested in such a remarkable degree at every stage of his missionary career, his almost incomprehensible endurance of privations and suffering, and the conviction that the reason of his death was not his association with the Hurons, but hatred of Christianity, has set on foot a movement for his canonization as a saint and martyr. An ecclesiastical court sat in 1904 for an entire year to examine his life and virtues and the cause of his death, and the result of the inquiry was forwarded to Rome. Brébeuf and seven other Jesuits, known collectively as the Jesuit North American Martyrs, were canonized in 1930. His feast day is October 19th.
Brébeuf's Instructions to the Missionaries
In 1637, Father Jean de Brébeuf drew up a list of instructions for Jesuit missionaries destined to work among the Huron. These reflect his own experience and a genuine sensitivity toward our people.
- You must love these Hurons, ransomed by the blood of the Son of God, as brothers.
- You must never keep the Indians waiting at the time of embarking.
- Carry a tinder-box or a piece of burning-glass, or both, to make fire for them during the day for smoking, and in the evening when it is necessary to camp; these little services win their hearts.
- Try to eat the little food they offer you, and eat all you can, for you may not eat again for hours.
- Eat as soon as day breaks, for Indians when on the road, eat only at the rising and the setting of the sun.
- Be prompt in embarking and disembarking and do not carry any water or sand into the canoe.
- Be the least troublesome to the Indians.
- Do not ask many questions; silence is golden.
- Bear with their imperfections, and you must try always to appear cheerful.
- Carry with you a half-gross of awls, two or three dozen little folding knives (jambettes), and some plain and fancy beads with which to buy fish or other commodities from the nations you meet, in order to feast you Indian companions, and be sure to tell them from the outset that here is something with which to buy fish.
- Always carry something during the portages.
- Do not be ceremonious with the Indians.
- Do not begin to paddle unless you intend always to paddle.
- The Indians will keep later that opinion of you which they have formed during the trip.
- Always show any other Indians you meet on the way a cheerful face and show that you readily accept the fatigues of the journey.
Huron Relations on the World Wide Web, and
The 1999 Canadian Encyclopedia.
Obviously, but what does such a statement have to do with the office of the Pope? In other words, are you denying that Christ selected Peter to be the rock upon which He would build His Church?
Christ is always the head of the Church, but he called out Simon and named him Cephos(the rock) and installed him as the physical head of the Church on earth.
I would belabor the point any longer. You are locked into that position and we'll leave it at that.
Either way, it doesn't really matter to God as long as we are looking at Him with our hearts praise, glory and adoration for Him.
My whole labor on this subject is not to change folks methods of how they prefer to worship, but that by knowing Christ in an intimate way, they will find the strength to love their enemies as they love themselves.
If Christ becomes the focus of our worship, then it doesn't matter how we choose to do that, as long as it is done from the heart.
A father of six, I can attest to the way each one of my children honor me. And not any two honor me the same way.
So it is in heaven, so it is on the earth.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Who knows the actual, Church-given reason why the Leonine prayers at the end of Mass were done away with after the reformed liturgy was implemented? I'm looking for the actual reason rather than speculation or the like.
Locked in a position? Do you deny that God set Peter up as the first Pope? And if not, that is God's position.
Jesus described the faith of Peter as the the faith upon which Jesus would build His ministry on, not Peter.
Peter was tested and tried and when the Holy Spirit of Jesus entered Him, He became even bolder as did all the rest of the Apostles.
Likewise you and I upon receiving the Holy Spirit in us, would like wise change our hearts towards God.
This is what Jesus was referring too, not a man made organization and Peter being the head of it. For there can only be one head, that being Christ!
The Pope, God bless Him, for he is doing what God has him do. For God has no lack of participants in His organization of which He is head honcho of!
Fine,you can believe what you want, but let us agree that Christ is the Saviour of your soul won't we?
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
Do Muslims Worship the Same God as Catholics? The Catechism looks like it says so. But it's kind of hard to swallow.
What do you think?
What do you think?
I don't think anyone worships the same god, personally. Everyone has a different view.
Just wondered something about names. Like why do people have to change their name when they become pope, for instance? Er wazzat covered and I missed it?
Just wondered something about names. Like why do people have to change their name when they become pope, for instance? Er wazzat covered and I missed it?
Documentation from the consilium indicates it was "eliminated" because it was not part of the Mass but, rather, post-Mass prayers. The reason I put "eliminated" in quotes is because they may still be said -- they aren't (and never were) a part of the Mass.
It is done to show that the human man has ended, in essence his service to the Church requires him to install a new public persona separate from his personal self. In other words, his role is now one as Pope, and as such, he begins anew period of his life.
No. The cathechism teaches we recongize those parts of the Muslim faith that are good and in line with
Church teaching. BUT, they reject the Christ.
That's what it means to me, and I live by it, but I've never
actually met anyone else who feels this way, including
priests.