If it gets warmer? Won't we have more time to grow ? :roll:
At least with a 65 cent economy it will offset the lost.
Carbon Tax Will Compromise Canadian Food Sovereignty
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If it gets warmer? Won't we have more time to grow ? :roll:
At least with a 65 cent economy it will offset the lost.
Won't happen. Foreign corporations are not allowed to own farm land in Canada, although farmers themselves may incorporate.
they have canadian owned subsidiaries
like general foods canada owns hostess which owns tons of potatoe land around here
In 1955, Snyder sold his company to E.W. Vanstone, who expanded the company greatly before selling his interest to General Foods
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostess_Potato_Chips
General Foods Corporation was a company whose direct predecessor was established in the USA by Charles William Post as the Postum Cereal Company in 1895. The name General Foods was adopted in 1929, after several corporate acquisitions. In November 1985, General Foods was acquired by Philip Morris Companies (now Altria Group, Inc.) for $5.6 billion, the largest non-oil acquisition to that time. In December 1988, Philip Morris acquired Kraft, Inc., and, in 1990, combined the two food companies as Kraft General Foods (KGF). "General Foods" was dropped from the corporate name in 1995 and now exists only as part of a brand name for a flavored coffee-based beverage, General Foods International.
a carbone tax is the lowest, most dishonest butt screw ever
anyone who supports one is just a stooge for global rapists like al gore who has made billions off this scam, and who owns several sea side mansions...
which haven't yet lost any square footage
like general foods canada owns hostess which owns tons of potatoe land around here
In 1955, Snyder sold his company to E.W. Vanstone, who expanded the company greatly before selling his interest to General Foods
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostess_Potato_Chips
General Foods Corporation was a company whose direct predecessor was established in the USA by Charles William Post as the Postum Cereal Company in 1895. The name General Foods was adopted in 1929, after several corporate acquisitions. In November 1985, General Foods was acquired by Philip Morris Companies (now Altria Group, Inc.) for $5.6 billion, the largest non-oil acquisition to that time. In December 1988, Philip Morris acquired Kraft, Inc., and, in 1990, combined the two food companies as Kraft General Foods (KGF). "General Foods" was dropped from the corporate name in 1995 and now exists only as part of a brand name for a flavored coffee-based beverage, General Foods International.
a carbone tax is the lowest, most dishonest butt screw ever
anyone who supports one is just a stooge for global rapists like al gore who has made billions off this scam, and who owns several sea side mansions...
which haven't yet lost any square footage
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Grocers will likely continue to seek affordable foods for their customer. The concern, of course, is that Canadian goods with a carbon tax may become much less attractive from a price perspective. This would encourage grocers to import more foods, regardless of the dollar’s value, a trend we have seen over the past few years.
It? We could get warmer but we'll get no more time. We have entered a regularly schedualed period of reduced sun. Over population will get addressed organicly. The lost can only be offset by increased production at double plus good rate. Thankyou for your question.
they don't need us anymore. they hate us spearm bags.
Auto Flower! I like that, rest at last.
We've had carbon taxes for decades. We just didn't use the word carbon tax. We called it fuel tax or gasoline tax. In that sense the tax has been around for more than a hundred years. As for the businesses you list, they are food processors, not farmers. The taking over of Canadian businesses by foreign concerns is nothing new; it also has been going on for decades. And I'm guessing that you are wrong about any of the above businesses actually owning farmland since I could find no evidence for it anywhere on the internet. What is did find was this:
4 Protection of Farmland in Canada
4.1 Constitutional Jurisdiction
Under the Canadian Constitution, the provinces are responsible for legislating matters of farmland ownership in Canada, which includes all aspects of property law and its ramifications, particularly leasing and estates, as well as urban planning regulations and farmland use. The provinces may also regulate the acquisition of parcels of land by non-residents of the province or non-Canadian citizens.
The power of the provinces to prohibit or limit the acquisition of parcels of land by non-residents of the province was upheld by the Supreme Court of Canada in 1975. In Morgan v. Attorney General of Prince Edward Island, the Court recognized a provincial law prohibiting non-residents of the province from becoming the owners of a parcel of land exceeding 10 acres (about 4 hectares) without the agreement of the Lieutenant-Governor in Council (the provincial Cabinet).
Regarding legal residents of Canada who have not obtained citizenship, it is not clear whether it is the provinces that have the necessary constitutional jurisdiction to limit their right to acquire land within provincial borders. According to the Canadian Constitution, the Parliament of Canada actually has exclusive jurisdiction over legislation relating to citizenship and foreigners. In a comment in Morgan, the Supreme Court implied, without actually deciding, that the provinces could possibly restrict land ownership by non-citizens.
In any case, the federal government settled the matter in 1977 by delegating this power to the provinces. Thus, section 35 of the Citizenship Act allows the provinces to pass regulations to prohibit or restrict "the taking or acquisition directly or indirectly of … any interest in real property located in the province by persons who are not citizens or by corporations or associations that are effectively controlled by persons who are not citizens."
The Citizenship Act does not, however, allow the provinces to prohibit or restrict the acquisition of land by persons who are permanent residents under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, or to impose a restriction that would:
- contravene Canada's international obligations;
- discriminate based on nationality;
- prevent a State from acquiring real property for diplomatic use;
- apply to investments that have been declared to be of net benefit to Canada under the Investment Canada Act.
You can read the entire article here if you wish. It is quite lengthy, but it seems to support my view.
Farmland Grabbing in Canada
we need a fair taxation act that taxes:
- non smokers
- non alcoholics
- economy cars
- public transit users
- people that put plastic on their windows during the winter.
- etc.
- non smokers
- non alcoholics
- economy cars
- public transit users
- people that put plastic on their windows during the winter.
- etc.
a gas or fuel tax is not a carbone tax
people breath it out and plants eat the co2, and food animals eat the vegetation
fuel and gas...not so much
its a tax on an element which has nothing to do with climate
and everything to do with food
people breath it out and plants eat the co2, and food animals eat the vegetation
fuel and gas...not so much
its a tax on an element which has nothing to do with climate
and everything to do with food
So, when I open a can of Coke and the CO2 starts bubbling out, the meter starts running?
Land might be protected somewhat, but that is basiclly irrelevant. Case in point, the cattle industry. There are tons on cow/calf producers, all Canadian landowners, but their sale prices are set by foreign owned feed lots and meat processors. Sovereignty is already gone by definition.
This whole thing is drivel!!
The carbon tax/climate change theory I will say again and again is total BS. The science is simply not there despite what the "elites" would have you believe. The so-called figures being used are based upon lies and faulty science and the scientists who are brave enough to come forward are treated as "extremists" when, in fact, it's those proposing this climate-based "theory" are the ones that are extreme. But, we're going to pay and pay and pay anyway because if something is stated enough times, it eventually becomes the truth which, in this case, has worked very well..
Of course groceries are going to go up! How can they not? As will everything else - utilities, motor vehicle fuel, etc., etc. And who stands to gain? Certainly not the average joe, that's for sure. We're just going to be poorer and our standard of living will be reduced. So much for "helping the "middle class" a la Justin Trudeau. He could care a less about the "middle class".
The whole "climate change" fiasco is totally absurd and I guarantee you that in 20, 30 or 50 years not a damn thing will change "climate-wise". It's simply so frustrating I could scream but there you have it. I don't envy the young people today - their future is so much more insecure than mine was; will they have jobs? Will they be able to afford to purchase a home? Will they be able to eat period (never mind "properly"), pay their utility bills when it's minus 20 or 30 below?
And the elites (who say do as I say and not as I do as they fly around on their private jets) will be laughing all the way to the bank because, of course, they're the ones who are vested in this whole fiasco and plan on doing very well by it. So, please, please, continue to tax the hell out of us. We really want to have less disposable income - seriously - we really, really do so we can "save the planet". We don't care if we freeze in the cold; we love having utilities bills we can't pay and we really like the idea of not eating food because we can't afford to buy it; at least not the "good stuff".
I am all for "saving the planet" when it involves real "pollution" (aka sewage in the St. Lawrence or off the Pacific Coast of BC); of cleaning up our environment aka picking up trash and recycling and ensuring we have clean water and clean air. All those make common sense. This other though, has absolutely nothing to do with pollution or clean air; it's simply a money grab.
I've had discussions with my fellow co-workers and others about the carbon tax coming in Alberta and NONE of them are even aware of how it will affect them in the New Year. I was astounded at their lack of knowledge especially since the government has spent 9 million dollars trying to "educate" the population. But I'm thinking (hoping?) that because we're so busy trying to make a living and survive, we've not the time to actually look up and see what the heck this government is doing. But there'll be an awakening come January - that's for sure. But then I think the government is counting on people not taking the time to look into this and how it's going to affect their day-to-day lives. sigh....
Whomever voted for the NDP voted for an ideology and not a practical, common-sense government, that's for sure. Wonder if they are aware of it now? Hmmmm?
JMHO
The carbon tax/climate change theory I will say again and again is total BS. The science is simply not there despite what the "elites" would have you believe. The so-called figures being used are based upon lies and faulty science and the scientists who are brave enough to come forward are treated as "extremists" when, in fact, it's those proposing this climate-based "theory" are the ones that are extreme. But, we're going to pay and pay and pay anyway because if something is stated enough times, it eventually becomes the truth which, in this case, has worked very well..
Of course groceries are going to go up! How can they not? As will everything else - utilities, motor vehicle fuel, etc., etc. And who stands to gain? Certainly not the average joe, that's for sure. We're just going to be poorer and our standard of living will be reduced. So much for "helping the "middle class" a la Justin Trudeau. He could care a less about the "middle class".
The whole "climate change" fiasco is totally absurd and I guarantee you that in 20, 30 or 50 years not a damn thing will change "climate-wise". It's simply so frustrating I could scream but there you have it. I don't envy the young people today - their future is so much more insecure than mine was; will they have jobs? Will they be able to afford to purchase a home? Will they be able to eat period (never mind "properly"), pay their utility bills when it's minus 20 or 30 below?
And the elites (who say do as I say and not as I do as they fly around on their private jets) will be laughing all the way to the bank because, of course, they're the ones who are vested in this whole fiasco and plan on doing very well by it. So, please, please, continue to tax the hell out of us. We really want to have less disposable income - seriously - we really, really do so we can "save the planet". We don't care if we freeze in the cold; we love having utilities bills we can't pay and we really like the idea of not eating food because we can't afford to buy it; at least not the "good stuff".
I am all for "saving the planet" when it involves real "pollution" (aka sewage in the St. Lawrence or off the Pacific Coast of BC); of cleaning up our environment aka picking up trash and recycling and ensuring we have clean water and clean air. All those make common sense. This other though, has absolutely nothing to do with pollution or clean air; it's simply a money grab.
I've had discussions with my fellow co-workers and others about the carbon tax coming in Alberta and NONE of them are even aware of how it will affect them in the New Year. I was astounded at their lack of knowledge especially since the government has spent 9 million dollars trying to "educate" the population. But I'm thinking (hoping?) that because we're so busy trying to make a living and survive, we've not the time to actually look up and see what the heck this government is doing. But there'll be an awakening come January - that's for sure. But then I think the government is counting on people not taking the time to look into this and how it's going to affect their day-to-day lives. sigh....
Whomever voted for the NDP voted for an ideology and not a practical, common-sense government, that's for sure. Wonder if they are aware of it now? Hmmmm?
JMHO
Canada has food sovereignty? But only parts of Canada are rich in food production, others are quite poor. How is that possible?
From our transcanada highway.
Which brings me to another thought...
When in the hell are we going to build a transCanada pipeline, the Maritimes are tired of hearing how rich the country is in energy resources. We are still burning heating oil in our homes, and our ports are busy with south american oil tankers.
If I have to pay world market prices for oil, I want it to be canadian, damn it!
From our transcanada highway.
Which brings me to another thought...
When in the hell are we going to build a transCanada pipeline, the Maritimes are tired of hearing how rich the country is in energy resources. We are still burning heating oil in our homes, and our ports are busy with south american oil tankers.
If I have to pay world market prices for oil, I want it to be canadian, damn it!
With what? The Northern Peso trudOWE gave us?
Ontariowe and Queerbek do not want you to have Canadian oil unless they get a fee for it crossing their land. View it as the Crow rate in reverse.