Capitalism will save this world

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Not much socialism in the United States,but if one were to look at some European countires that do have socialist parties (like the NDP), either in opposition or have had terms running the country, most have a relatively good quality of life. Most Scandinavian countries are ruled by Social Democrats. Even the Liberal Party could be considered social democratic, considering they are slightly left of center on the political spectrum.

Actually, none of the Scandinavian countries are "socialist". They may have some socialist policies but they are very much capitalists otherwise, they wouldn't be able to support said socialist policies.

Canada, like the U.S. have some socialist policies but both are capitalist countries. For Canada, the Canada Pension Plan, Employment Insurance & Health Care; in the U.S. do they not also pay into a pension plan & have unemployment insurance? Those are socialist policies supported by capitalism.

Stating that Scandinavian countries are socialist is totally copying what Bernie Sanders keeps saying and it's false. Google the Leader of Denmark where he actually goes public to challenge Bernie's contention that they're a socialist country. And, because of the cost, they're reducing some social benefits.

So, you have to understand pure socialism will not work because eventually someone has to pay "the piper" and when the "piper" is broke, then what? Believe me, like Venezuela, the so-called "leaders" aren't suffering, just the rest of the population.
 

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Trouble with capitalism imo is that a better strategy came along to invest time working in the public sector as a way of meeting physiological needs with ample disposable income left over. There is no incentive to try and be productive. Raise your children and pay your mortgage, live aimlessly.
 

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because the world is run by psychopaths and capitalism is the greatest force for destroying the planet. And assholes like you support the destruction.
 

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because the world is run by psychopaths and capitalism is the greatest force for destroying the planet. And assholes like you support the destruction.
No , Cliffy my world is run by me , it is assholes like you that want to control me that is the problem . Why are you a Nazi ?
 

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That's for sure. America is in danger of going from Capitalism to Authoritarianism, with a Trump re-election. It would be no different than a South American dictatorship. The American people are going to choose the lessor of two evils. Biden will be elected.


In what world do you live in? OMG - how is Trump a "dictator" or "Authoritarian?" Has has not used the IRS (like Obama did) to go after "certain" reporters; he hasn't "dictated" what the States should be doing - he's actually left the decision-making to the Governors of said States (like he's required to under the Constitution) - so please, tell me - what has he "dictated"? He's actually been quite the opposite and under a Biden/Harris there will be "dictating" - Don't fall for the B.S. that the Left is spewing because it's all total nonsense.

Biden lies like a sidewalk & so does Harris even tho' they accuse Trump of the same. They're doing EXACTLY what they're accusing Trump of doing.
 

pgs

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In what world do you live in? OMG - how is Trump a "dictator" or "Authoritarian?" Has has not used the IRS (like Obama did) to go after "certain" reporters; he hasn't "dictated" what the States should be doing - he's actually left the decision-making to the Governors of said States (like he's required to under the Constitution) - so please, tell me - what has he "dictated"? He's actually been quite the opposite and under a Biden/Harris there will be "dictating" - Don't fall for the B.S. that the Left is spewing because it's all total nonsense.

Biden lies like a sidewalk & so does Harris even tho' they accuse Trump of the same. They're doing EXACTLY what they're accusing Trump of doing.
That’s their M O .
 

Tecumsehsbones

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In what world do you live in? OMG - how is Trump a "dictator" or "Authoritarian?" Has has not used the IRS (like Obama did) to go after "certain" reporters; he hasn't "dictated" what the States should be doing - he's actually left the decision-making to the Governors of said States (like he's required to under the Constitution) - so please, tell me - what has he "dictated"? He's actually been quite the opposite and under a Biden/Harris there will be "dictating" - Don't fall for the B.S. that the Left is spewing because it's all total nonsense.
Biden lies like a sidewalk & so does Harris even tho' they accuse Trump of the same. They're doing EXACTLY what they're accusing Trump of doing.
OK. . . what provision of the Constitution says that "decision-making" is up to state governors?

Just curious.
 

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My understanding is that the Constitution limits the powers of the Presidency and includes the Congress & Senate so that none of the 3 individually can over rule the other. Trump had the Governors make their own decisions on dealing with Covid & Policing riots for each state and ASKED the governors of the States that were having riot issues if he could send assistance to those States. The idea was categorically rejected by most of the Governors therefore contradicting the crap the Leftists/Dems are spewing about Trump being a Dictator or an Authoritarian. My point was that Obama used the system to his benefit; Trump has not.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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My understanding is that the Constitution limits the powers of the Presidency and includes the Congress & Senate so that none of the 3 individually can over rule the other. Trump had the Governors make their own decisions on dealing with Covid & Policing riots for each state and ASKED the governors of the States that were having riot issues if he could send assistance to those States. The idea was categorically rejected by most of the Governors therefore contradicting the crap the Leftists/Dems are spewing about Trump being a Dictator or an Authoritarian. My point was that Obama used the system to his benefit; Trump has not.
Your understanding is a touch flawed.

The three branches of the Federal government are not the Presidency, the Congress, and the Senate. The Senate is part of the Congress (the other part is the House of Representatives, equivalent to your House of Commons). The three branches are the executive (President), the legislature (Congress), and the judiciary (Supreme Court).

The relationship between the Federal government and the states is governed by several provisions of the Constitution, including section 8 of Article I (the powers of Congress) and the Tenth Amendment. It is far too complex to go into in a brief post.

Contrary to what you were told, he sent Federal authorities into Portland and Seattle without the request or consent of the governors of Oregon and Washington or the mayors of Portland and Seattle.
 

pgs

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Your understanding is a touch flawed.

The three branches of the Federal government are not the Presidency, the Congress, and the Senate. The Senate is part of the Congress (the other part is the House of Representatives, equivalent to your House of Commons). The three branches are the executive (President), the legislature (Congress), and the judiciary (Supreme Court).

The relationship between the Federal government and the states is governed by several provisions of the Constitution, including section 8 of Article I (the powers of Congress) and the Tenth Amendment. It is far too complex to go into in a brief post.

Contrary to what you were told, he sent Federal authorities into Portland and Seattle without the request or consent of the governors of Oregon and Washington or the mayors of Portland and Seattle.
Should the federal government protect Federal property ? Should the United States Air Force not have security ?