Canadian military adviser killed in friendly fire in Iraq

[tay]

The slain soldier was identified as Sgt. Andrew Joseph Doiron, from the Canadian Special Operations Regiment, based at Garrison Petawawa, Ontario.






The incident comes as the Canadian government is actively debating whether to extend the country's combat mission against the Islamic State group, which is due to expire at the end of the month. Canadian Foreign Minister Rob Nicholson said this past week that Canada would be in Iraq for the long term.


The fact that Canadian special forces have been training and assisting on the front lines in northern Iraq has been controversial in Canada.


Canada has 69 special forces soldiers with Kurdish peshmerga fighters in what the government calls an advising and assisting role. They were sent to help train Kurdish fighters last September in a mission that was billed as non-combat with the elite troops working far behind the front lines. Harper told Parliament in late September that the soldiers would not accompany the Kurdish fighters, but a Canadian general said in January that they do 80 percent of the training and advising behind the front lines and about 20 percent right at the front lines.




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Canadian military adviser killed in friendly fire in Iraq

 

[Sal]

Jesus

RIP Sgt. Andrew Joseph Doiron

and thank you

 

[Cliffy]

Military advisers. Isn't that how the Vietnam war got started? I haven't heard lately if the poppy crop has declined or not. Just wondering if security in the fields needs beefing up.

 

[tay]

Military advisers. Isn't that how the Vietnam war got started? I haven't heard lately if the poppy crop has declined or not. Just wondering if security in the fields needs beefing up.

I'm with Bernie on this..........






Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ripped Saudi Arabia Friday after the nation’s top diplomat suggested the U.S. would have to deploy ground troops to ultimately defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).


“I find it remarkable that Saudi Arabia, which borders Iraq and is controlled by a multi-billion dollar family, is demanding that U.S. combat troops have ‘boots on the ground’ against ISIS. Where are the Saudi troops?” Sanders, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, said in a statement.


“With the third largest military budget in the world and an army far larger than ISIS, the Saudi government must accept its full responsibility for stability in their own region of the world,” he added.




http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/132975-well-course-usa-uk-now.html

 

[Nuggler]

Jesus

RIP Sgt. Andrew Joseph Doiron

and thank you

yes indeed. RIP.

 

[Sal]

I'm with Bernie on this..........






Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ripped Saudi Arabia Friday after the nation’s top diplomat suggested the U.S. would have to deploy ground troops to ultimately defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).


“I find it remarkable that Saudi Arabia, which borders Iraq and is controlled by a multi-billion dollar family, is demanding that U.S. combat troops have ‘boots on the ground’ against ISIS. Where are the Saudi troops?” Sanders, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, said in a statement.


“With the third largest military budget in the world and an army far larger than ISIS, the Saudi government must accept its full responsibility for stability in their own region of the world,” he added.




http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/132975-well-course-usa-uk-now.html

agreed, I don't think we should be there, it's an unpopular view but I think we should worry about things here first

 

[WLDB]

I'm with Bernie on this..........






Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ripped Saudi Arabia Friday after the nation’s top diplomat suggested the U.S. would have to deploy ground troops to ultimately defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).


“I find it remarkable that Saudi Arabia, which borders Iraq and is controlled by a multi-billion dollar family, is demanding that U.S. combat troops have ‘boots on the ground’ against ISIS. Where are the Saudi troops?” Sanders, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, said in a statement.


“With the third largest military budget in the world and an army far larger than ISIS, the Saudi government must accept its full responsibility for stability in their own region of the world,” he added.




http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/132975-well-course-usa-uk-now.html

Yeah the Saudis have been getting a free ride for far too long when it comes to this sort of thing. Let them and the others in the region take care of it.

 

[petros]

Military advisers. Isn't that how the Vietnam war got started? I haven't heard lately if the poppy crop has declined or not. Just wondering if security in the fields needs beefing up.

No. It started with France. Where do you come up with this crap?

 

[MHz]

agreed, I don't think we should be there, it's an unpopular view but I think we should worry about things here first

RIP and lets hope this is the last causality.
I'm going to bet the 'official story' is as full as bull**** as the rest of the West's PR program is. Canadians might get upset if he was killed by some Muslim defending his homeland, sorry that would be 'terrorist' wouldn't it?

A red for a sympathy post to a needlessly dead Canadian soldier, somebody is ready to join Biden in rehab it looks like.

 

[Cliffy]

Military advisers. Isn't that how the Vietnam war got started? I haven't heard lately if the poppy crop has declined or not. Just wondering if security in the fields needs beefing up.

And Harper and his gang of thugs is leading us down this path. Expect more unnecessary deaths as Harper tries to impress the world that he has balls.

 

[petros]

Wwjd?

 

[Colpy]

I'm with Bernie on this..........






Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) ripped Saudi Arabia Friday after the nation’s top diplomat suggested the U.S. would have to deploy ground troops to ultimately defeat the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS).


“I find it remarkable that Saudi Arabia, which borders Iraq and is controlled by a multi-billion dollar family, is demanding that U.S. combat troops have ‘boots on the ground’ against ISIS. Where are the Saudi troops?” Sanders, a potential 2016 presidential candidate, said in a statement.


“With the third largest military budget in the world and an army far larger than ISIS, the Saudi government must accept its full responsibility for stability in their own region of the world,” he added.




http://forums.canadiancontent.net/international-politics/132975-well-course-usa-uk-now.html

Saudi Arabia is a HUGE part of the problem.....it is not part of the solution...............so far, at least.

Depending on a Islamist nation to defeat Islamists is just whacked.

Although I agree it is about time someone asked them "Are you part of the solution, or part of the problem?"

Keystone and Energy East, NOW.

 

[MHz]

Canada is as full of liars as the UK and the US.
Canada and Kurds disagree over soldier's death in Iraq
IRBIL, Iraq (AP) — Canadian and Kurdish officials on Sunday offered conflicting accounts of the death of a Canadian soldier in a friendly fighting incident in Iraq, with the Kurds saying he was on the front lines directing airstrikes and Canada's defense minister saying he had returned to an observation post further back.
The death of Sgt. Andrew Joseph Doiron on Friday marked Canada's first casualty as part of the U.S.-led coalition's war on the extremist Islamic State group. Canada is actively debating whether to extend the combat mission, which is due to expire at the end of the month.
Kurdish officials said Sunday that Doiron was killed after he and other Canadian soldiers showed up to the front line unannounced to call in airstrikes.
"They went to the front line to direct airstrikes because the area was attacked by ISIS the day before," Hezhar Ismail, director of coordination and relations for Kurdish peshmerga forces told The Associated Press, using an acronym for the Islamic State group.
But Canadian Defense Minister Jason Kenney said the Canadian soldiers had just returned to an observation post well behind the front line when they were mistakenly fired upon by Kurdish fighters.
"They weren't on the front line," Kenney said in an interview with CTV. "It was 200 meters from the front."
The Canadian military denied they were in the area to direct airstrikes.
"I can confirm it's a big no. They were not there to conduct airstrikes," said Daniel Lebouthillier, a spokesman for the Canadian military.

Saudi Arabia is a HUGE part of the problem.....it is not part of the solution...............so far, at least.

.

Put your fuking head on straight.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZf-vx9RCY4

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T1sjieQLuk

 

[taxslave]

And Harper and his gang of thugs is leading us down this path. Expect more unnecessary deaths as Harper tries to impress the world that he has balls.

Harper does have balls. That is why the left is so afraid of him. Odd that they like Putin for the same reason.

 

[Goober]

John Ivison: After Sgt. Andrew Doiron’s death, let’s dispense with the hogwash that Canada isn’t in a combat mission | National Post

Peshmerga Commander Mosa Gardi told the Kurdish news agency Basnews he blamed the Canadians for the tragedy. “They got very close to the fighting without our co-ordination and when the Peshmerga saw them, they asked who they were. The Canadians answered in Arabic, leading the Peshmerga to believe they were IS militants, and shot them.”

I find it hard to believe that highly trained Canadian commandos would reply to a challenge in the language of the enemy, rather than use pre-ordained code words. Blaming Canadian advisers for “an improper action” may help justify the actions of a trigger-happy Kurd but it will hardly strengthen goodwill between coalition forces. The whole incident is an unwelcome reminder that there are no good choices — only less bad ones — when picking sides in the mire of Middle Eastern politics.

 

[Locutus]

Statement from Defence Minister Jason Kenney on investigations probing death of Canadian soldier in Iraq. #cdnpoli

https://twitter.com/Justin_Ling/status/598211581244211201

https://twitter.com/CdnPress/status/598214651772407810