There are two separate entities in the US: the American Empire and the American people. American people are just people and the American Empire sucks and it victimizes not only the rest of the world but its own people. The ruling class of the US is despotic and has no integrity. Its only concern is power and wealth at any cost. It is no different than any other empire before it and is collapsing just like every other empire before it. Recognizing that is not hatred. Crapping on people for having a different point of view than you do is.
Canadian/American Merger
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The ignorance, and zenophobia, displayed in this topic is almost amusing.
First of all, the United States of American does not have an "Empire". Unlike the British, we have handed back all lands taken in battle that were not part of North America. And, even when we totally defeated Mexico, we made no effort at all to annex that country.
Second, the country is FAR from collapse.
Canada is a LOT closer to a breakup than the USA is. If Quebec ever breaks away, the rest of Canada will shatter in less than 50 years. Virtually every study done, has shown that this is the case. The Atlantic Provinces would be cut off from the rest of Canada, and that kind of situation almost always ends up in the cut off part either going independent, or joining another country.
Should Quebec leave, what would prevent the Prairie Provinces from also seceding? They really don't have all that much in common with Ontario, and they DEEPLY resent the lack of a voice in the Federal government. It is quite likely that if Quebec went independent, the Prairie Provinces would most likely petition to join the USA.
So, what is left? British Columbia is well over a thousand miles away from Ontario. How long do you think that kind of an arrangement would last?
Rather than thinking about "Merging" with the USA (and there is absolutely NO real interest in the USA for such a thing), you had better worry about what the future holds for Canada.
First of all, the United States of American does not have an "Empire". Unlike the British, we have handed back all lands taken in battle that were not part of North America. And, even when we totally defeated Mexico, we made no effort at all to annex that country.
Second, the country is FAR from collapse.
Canada is a LOT closer to a breakup than the USA is. If Quebec ever breaks away, the rest of Canada will shatter in less than 50 years. Virtually every study done, has shown that this is the case. The Atlantic Provinces would be cut off from the rest of Canada, and that kind of situation almost always ends up in the cut off part either going independent, or joining another country.
Should Quebec leave, what would prevent the Prairie Provinces from also seceding? They really don't have all that much in common with Ontario, and they DEEPLY resent the lack of a voice in the Federal government. It is quite likely that if Quebec went independent, the Prairie Provinces would most likely petition to join the USA.
So, what is left? British Columbia is well over a thousand miles away from Ontario. How long do you think that kind of an arrangement would last?
Rather than thinking about "Merging" with the USA (and there is absolutely NO real interest in the USA for such a thing), you had better worry about what the future holds for Canada.
True, but not the lands won in battle within north America. Those lands the US took outside of the original thirteen colonies were conquered or bought from other Empires which conquered them. When the US did defeat Mexico they did annex a pretty big chunk of it. Looks like they are in a way taking those parts back through illegal immigration.
They control the federal government now and have for some time. They're getting more seats in the next election which will give them more power federally.
Who knows. The mainland US is cut off from Alaska and Hawaii but seem to be doing alright.
America was empire building in Mexico. Just because its actions differed from those of Britain 100 years previously doesn't change the fact. Americans constantly make the mistake of insisting that because the present and future do not look exactly like the past, there is no connection. Of course America is empire building. What do you think Puerto Rico and the Philippines were? Britain never claimed India was part of England but it certainly was part of the empire. Why do you think America fought in Vietnam? Why does America keep flushing its treasury down the tube in the Gulf and calling the Gulf an "area of national interest"?
Many disagree with you. Somebody here at Cdn Content, Baals tears maybe, wrote just last night that US wars abroad are over because America is heading for revolution. America is definitely in decline. 25% or more of its national debt is owned by China. China is going to be the new boss with India not very far behind. What else do you call it?
And both are a form of what passes in the 21st Century for what was referred to as imperialism 150 years ago.
Manifest Destiny was the 19th Century reference to the idea that eventually all of North America would be part of the US. Back around 2005 a Republican spokesmen in the Bush Administration was asked if Manifest Destiny was dead in US view, and he said no.
No gay reference towards me in this post I see? Please don't let us frighten you back into the closet if you just came out. You have the right to be here too.
True, but any self purported history expert, would have used the correct term, just saying.
I didn't need anyone to tell me that, I posted a thread explaining how it was still alive and well, many many moons ago. Feel free to go through my archives and take a look.
Nope.
But there's one towards me, lol.
Real Canadians have nothing to prove to anyone, they know their history hence they are not revisionists, they know their culture hence they don't compare themselves constantly to the United States, they know exactly who they are and you sir are by no stretch of the imagination a Canadian.
How can anyone take your posts as rational when confronted with BS you run.
When you have stated repeatedly your hatred for all things American.
Both are indicators of a non rational person.
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Look at a map of the Dominion of Canada and present day Canada, then come and babble about Manifest Destiny
Ohhhhh ok, so one Republican retard says Manifest Destiny exists and you suck it up? Smart man. :roll:
Tsk tsk, where is that Canadian tolerance I keep hearing aboot?
Come now SoL, there's no need to point out the empire building going on up here, while displacing the original inhabitants. Nationalists have no need of hearing such heresy.
Nationalists don't do tolerance, lol.
Now now CDNBear, don't go revisioning history, eh? Thousands of square miles were bought fair and square from them injuns, the British Empire was a benevolent force, y'all should be proud.
They give a whole new meaning to "bug up their ***", pun intended.
Wooot!? you mean there was no swindling, lying, cheating, outright theft?
None at all?
I'm shocked!
lol, this one looks like a lot of fun, lol.They give a whole new meaning to "bug up their ***", pun intended.
Really? I wasn't aware of that rule. It sounds snobbish to me. "Imperialism" was the term used in the post I replied to so I replied using it.
I have not claimed to be expert. Colpy has. Colpy has said he has a degree (or degrees?) in history and poli-sci. He gets upset when I differ with him.
Are you picking a fight? Its up to you. I don’t know you yet.
Then why did you reply to me?
So?
I didn't know there are archives. Are they indexed or searchable? Where are they?
So there is only one acceptable version of history, that's what you're saying?
I don't compare, I criticize. My criticisms really seem to have gotten under your skin, but you have yet to challenge one? Can't think of any response? When you do I'll remind you to
Yes, really.
He's an expert on history, and taught it. He doesn't rely on wikiality, like yourself, to support his position.
Ya, most of us get annoyed when confronted with idiocy.
Nope, just stepping into one, it's what I do.
What is?
You can add that to the long long list of what you don't know, which most definitely includes history.
Because you posted. Another thing we can add to the list of things you don't know about, lol.
Wow, this really isn't going to be very fun for me, if I have to explain everything to you.
Do you think you can raise the bar, even just a little?
Just go to my profile and click on...
Oh screw it, here, I'll make it easy for you, gawd knows you'll need all the help you can get...
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