Canadian 9/11 Petition for Parliament

ironsides

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Yes, I've been to university thanks. Question, if the steel beams were being heated - wouldn't the heat be transfered from the hot steel to the cooler steel (ie natural heat synch)? Also, how long would you have to heat the steel before it reached the point of turning to liquid? Finally, how come the remaining floors collapsed through the path of greatest resistance?

Final question for you, how do you explain the molten metal pouring out of the buildings prior to the collapse?

fresh.
You actually have no knowledge of structural integrity of the twin towers do you, its design what materials were used etc. At first I thought you might have. Have to be more than a communication major to understand this properly. (not molten metal)

 

Tonington

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Actually, the problem with saying the steel just had to weaken is that the collapse was uniform and went straight through the path of greatest resistance (ie the building), so its physically impossible unless all the steel is removed - everywhere, simultaneously.

Which is easier for falling material (like the top of the building above the impact zone) to pass through, air? or the bottom of the building?

I'll go ahead and answer that for you. Air.

So what? A building doesn't care about what is easier. The building didn't disintegrate...it came apart in large chunks. You guys honestly live in a fairy land where everything is idealized. Reality is far messier than the ideal.

Also, how is it that the fires were still burning underground for weeks?
You've never had a campfire that is still burning in the morning? Imagine the amount of fuel in the lower floors that is there to smolder and burn.
 

darkbeaver

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the inside job scenario has been conclusively demonstrated by logic, that is inescapable, excepting compounding of the crime, which of course has been well entertained, they will hang as well, if justice is ever served
 

darkbeaver

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You might want to try thinking about things other than your mind. It's quite effective.
I'm impressed TP, that is very good advice, in honour of this singular occasion I have decided to award you with one of the coveted thumbs ups in addition to a hardy and well founded congradulations on your accomplishment. Remedial education does work and you and your mentors must be very pleased with your advancements.(grin)
 

darkbeaver

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From The Extinction of the Mammoths by Charles Ginenthal, page 74:
Central to Lakatos' analysis is his distinction between 'progressive' and 'degenerating' research programs. Each step of a progressive program increases its empirical content, predicting new facts as it moves along, and seeing those predictions corroborated as time passes. In contrast, degenerating programs are marked by the accretion of ad hoc hypotheses designed to protect the heart of the program [theory] from important inconsistencies, while failing to predict new and unexpected phenomena (from Grayson, "Explaining Pleistocene Extinctions," op cit., p. 821; see also, I. Lakatos, "Falsification and the Methodology of scientific research programs," The Methodology of Scientific Research Programs, J. Worral, G. Currie, ed. (Cambridge, Eng., 1978), pp 8 - 110.)


( DB: in the case of 9/11 we clearly observe a degenerative program marked by exactly those same accretions of ad hoc hypotheses designed to protect the official theory from important observed inconsistencies.DB)
 

petros

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fresh.
You actually have no knowledge of structural integrity of the twin towers do you, its design what materials were used etc. At first I thought you might have. Have to be more than a communication major to understand this properly. (not molten metal)

What is that pouring out of the building? Liquid office equipment and orange juice?
 

darkbeaver

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silly monotone drudges bleating out the same crayonized rubbish like

( "you dumb you no unnerstan phizzics you no unnerstan fire you dick too small oh burn hot very big building fall cuz alunium bag kerosine wit wings blow up an burn high grade steel all the way to China.)
 

CDNBear

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My wood stove has been on fire for several months now and has yet to melt.
Take the fire bricks out.

What could be on fire in that poor building?
Plastic, aluminum, magnesium, graphite, lead, and so on.

what was that tune?
The same tune that applies to every post you make.

YouTube - Circus! Theme Music

The point about the wood stove is a good one.
No it isn't, unless you ignore logic and reality.

Normal office fires are supposed to have been what brought down the towers according to the official 9/11 report.
No, normal office fires did not bring down the towers. You can try and be disingenuous all you want, but it just proves your lack of knowledge and honesty is more sound then your grasp of reality.
This is impossible.
I once thought it impossible to be so profoundly ignorant of fact and logic. and yet here you are.

Do you have any computers or servers inside your wood stove?
About as many as he has original thoughts in his head.

Why would you think I'm talking about the PC's as a heat source?
Because that way he won't have to acknowledge his errors and short comings.

The heat source is the fire that you can see burning throughout the video in that shot. There's lead in computers, and there were servers in that building.
All irrelevant.

If it were true that normal office fires melted the structural steel on 9/11 - this would be a historic first.
I agree, thing is, it wasn't a normal office fire though.

Yes, I've been to university thanks.
A visit to a campus, or a degree in Liberal Arts, hardly makes your dishonesty and more credible.
Question, if the steel beams were being heated - wouldn't the heat be transfered from the hot steel to the cooler steel (ie natural heat synch)?
Yep, but at the point of transfer, the steel would be extremely weak, and no longer capable of bearing a load.

Also, how long would you have to heat the steel before it reached the point of turning to liquid?
It didn't turn to liquid.

Final question for you, how do you explain the molten metal pouring out of the buildings prior to the collapse?
Heat spectrum analysis showed that was a mixture of aluminum and other metals, not steel.

Actually, the problem with saying the steel just had to weaken is that the collapse was uniform and went straight through the path of greatest resistance (ie the building), so its physically impossible unless all the steel is removed - everywhere, simultaneously.
Not at all. Besides the fact that the collapse was not uniform, and not straight down, as your crowd keeps saying. Simply proves you're opinion wrong.

Which is easier for falling material (like the top of the building above the impact zone) to pass through, air? or the bottom of the building?
Depends on where the force is applied.

I'll go ahead and answer that for you. Air.
Good for you.
However, the building didn't topple over to one side did it?
Nope, well, not really anyways. It was forced downward because that is the direction the force applied by the collapse of the upper floors. As the building fell though, many large portions fell away from the buildings, causing great damage to surrounding buildings. A simple fact ignored by the weak of mind.
Also, how is it that the fires were still burning underground for weeks?
See beave's wood burning stove.

What is that pouring out of the building? Liquid office equipment and orange juice?
The orange juice was vapourized. So all that was left was liquid office furniture.
 
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Cannuck

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silly monotone drudges bleating out the same crayonized rubbish like

( "you dumb you no unnerstan phizzics you no unnerstan fire you dick too small oh burn hot very big building fall cuz alunium bag kerosine wit wings blow up an burn high grade steel all the way to China.)

That sounds more like your crowd, 911Petition can't answer simple direct questions (and she has more credibility than you do).