Canada’s Military current state & equipment

bob the dog

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Just money? Wow. No spouses, children, families, hometowns to whom they feel some loyalty? No personal pride in a job well done, or feeling that it's worth doing?

How did your government find that many people who have no values other than money to work for them? Are there that many sociopaths running around Canada?
In my estimation there are many that would do the job for all the reasons you list at 1/3 of the remuneration package that is the current standard. Unfortunately those people are not welcomed by the vast majority of the public service who enjoy things the way they are. No one has a better deal and let's keep it that way should be there motto.

To answer the second question, sociopaths like to hire other sociopaths and even more so when they are related. That way they all agree to pay themselves more.

What burns me is for them to earn in the top 1% during their working days and then to receive a golden pension above and beyond what regular Canadians get. If they haven't been able to build a nest egg before retiring at that level of income they don' deserve more imo. Paying out six figure pensions to 80 and 90 year old people is a huge waste but good for the banks where it sits.

And on, and on, and on
 

Tecumsehsbones

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In my estimation there are many that would do the job for all the reasons you list at 1/3 of the remuneration package that is the current standard. Unfortunately those people are not welcomed by the vast majority of the public service who enjoy things the way they are. No one has a better deal and let's keep it that way should be there motto.

To answer the second question, sociopaths like to hire other sociopaths and even more so when they are related. That way they all agree to pay themselves more.

What burns me is for them to earn in the top 1% during their working days and then to receive a golden pension above and beyond what regular Canadians get. If they haven't been able to build a nest egg before retiring at that level of income they don' deserve more imo. Paying out six figure pensions to 80 and 90 year old people is a huge waste but good for the banks where it sits.

And on, and on, and on
You think the entire civil service earns top 1%?
 

bob the dog

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Funny that you think I'd fall for you moving the goalposts from "top earners are civil servants" to "civil servants are top earners."

Nice try, though.
  • Overall average: The average annual salary for all full-time Canadian workers in 2023 was less than $70,000, while the average total compensation for a full-time federal employee was $125,300, according to a 2023 report from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
  • As of April 1, 2024, the federal public service had 367,772 employees. This number includes employees in the core public service and broader public sector agencies.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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  • Overall average: The average annual salary for all full-time Canadian workers in 2023 was less than $70,000, while the average total compensation for a full-time federal employee was $125,300, according to a 2023 report from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
  • As of April 1, 2024, the federal public service had 367,772 employees. This number includes employees in the core public service and broader public sector agencies.
That's too many. We have 2.9 million civilian Federal employees, out of a population of 326 million. Your average compensation tells me the civil service is top-heavy. See my thread on "How to Reduce the Federal Workforce" for how to reduce it without going all Trumpy.

Or, follow Dozy Don and be as cruel about it as you can, to make the Albertans and Saskatchewanners happy. Your pick.
 

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AI Overview



Gripen fighter planes are currently manufactured in
Sweden and Brazil. The primary manufacturer is the Swedish aerospace company Saab AB.
  • Sweden: The main production facility and site for parts integration and final assembly is located in Linköping.
  • Brazil: Saab has a local production line for the Brazilian Air Force's (FAB) ordered aircraft. Final assembly occurs at a facility managed by the Brazilian aerospace company Embraer in Gavião Peixoto, São Paulo.
Saab is currently exploring options to expand its production capacity, and Canada has been mentioned as a potential location for a new assembly line, particularly to meet the potential demand from Ukraine for over 100 jets, though no final decisions or contracts have been signed for this expansion.
 
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Canadian soldiers leaving military due to bad housing and health care
Author of the article:postmedia News
Published Nov 25, 2025 • Last updated 11 hours ago • 2 minute read

There’s no life like it as long as you don’t care about a decent roof over your head or waiting in line to get a doctor. Read on.
A Canadian flag patch on a soldier's uniform.
There’s no life like it as long as you don’t care about a decent roof over your head or waiting in line to get a doctor.


An internal report says more volunteers are leaving the Canadian Armed Forces due to inadequate housing and health care, according to Blacklock’s Reporter.


“In 2024, over 10% of the total number of Canadian Armed Forces members were relocated,” said the report.

“High housing costs made worse by the lack of military housing, loss of spousal employment, shortages in primary health-care providers and limited daycare spaces can lead to financial and personal hardships for military members.”

Waiting lists are daunting

The Evaluation Of Canadian Armed Forces Retention report says waits for daycare at an military base could run 32 months patients and for housing, it was even longer.


Researchers said more soldiers, sailors and air crew would sooner hand in their pink slips than relocate and face new waiting lists.


“The number of dual income families in Canada has doubled over the last 40 years and for military families, the prospect of losing a second income makes a geographic move untenable,” said the report.

“Loss of primary health care and daycare also puts additional strain on families who must repeat the process with each move.”

The report says the attrition rate for junior ranks, including young parents, was 9.4%.

This follows an Oct. 21 study by Auditor General Karen Hogan that rated some military housing unfit for habitation.

Non-working toilets

“Toilets weren’t working, or there was structural damage to the exterior walls of the building,” Hogan told reporters at the time.

“We were able to look at 45 buildings that were on these (three) bases. I can tell you the average age was over 60 years old. In fact one building was built in 1930.”

The audit, Housing Canadian Armed Forces Members, counted 3,706 military on waiting lists for 205 residential units.

The military is Canada’s second largest landlord with 21,000 buildings under its management.

“Approximately 25% of existing infrastructure is greater than 50 years old and requires significant maintenance, repair and recapitalization to ensure it remains serviceable and compliant with health, safety and environment regulations,” said a 2024 Audit Of Defence Infrastructure.