Canada’s bombing mission over by Feb. 22

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Neither of which surrendered as a result of conventional bombing.
Bombing played a massive role in breaking the will of the populace. Thus generating little to no civilian insurgency. Which proves Bluehairs comment wrong.

I'm also fully aware of the difference between the bombing in German/Japan, and the present conflict in the Middle East. Which is exactly why Flossy is partially right. While he thnks that Canada's participation is inconsequential. The combine mediocre effort is actually inconsequential. A half measure. If you're going to wage war, just do it.
 

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The citizens and the rest of the world would not support a perpetual war just so the US $$ didn't crash.
 

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Bombing played a massive role in breaking the will of the populace. Thus generating little to no civilian insurgency. Which proves Bluehairs comment wrong.
Bombing really didn't. Strategic bombing tends to have the opposite effect on people, it strengthens their resolve. Many an Allied bomber crew that was shot down suffered at the hands of the population they had just bombed. There was no insurgency in Germany because the bulk of the population weren't ardent Nazis and just wanted to get on with their lives. In Japan there was no insurgency because their leadership had declared a cessation to the hostilities after being nuked, twice. Japanese culture didn't allow the population to disobey.

I'm also fully aware of the difference between the bombing in German/Japan, and the present conflict in the Middle East. Which is exactly why Flossy is partially right. While he thnks that Canada's participation is inconsequential. The combine mediocre effort is actually inconsequential. A half measure. If you're going to wage war, just do it.
And that's the problem. As my friend's dad used to say when we played poker with him, "Go big or stay home".
 

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Bombing really didn't.
Different scholars have differing opinions on whether or not that's true.

In Japan there was no insurgency because their leadership had declared a cessation to the hostilities after being nuked, twice.
Bombing worked.

And that's the problem. As my friend's dad used to say when we played poker with him, "Go big or stay home".
He sounds like a wise man.
 

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We had a relatively small and inconsequential part to play on the bombing side, so this would be a much more appropriate allocation of resources.
It is nice to see you support the motions required in preparation for a ground war. I don't know about you but those Canadians on the ground would prefer CF18s over head than relying on others.
 

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Canada in nearer to US than to Russia; although Russia is also relatively near to Canada by the way of the polar region and Alaska.
 

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Yes well, in the eventual war crimes trials Canadas training and support of combatants in an undeclared war of agression will be considered an enormous committment suddenly if our favourites don't win.
 

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The ISIS mission is awash anyway as the real problem is Assad and they are just one of the symptoms.
 

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"Training" sounds so benign, doesn't it? Training in a war consists of fighting alongside and acting as advisors. We are putting some our servicemen (and women?) in real danger with this decision. I know that soldiers are trained to fight and generally want to but, God forbid, one of them is captured and publically terrorised by those barbarians. Justin will squirm like a worm. If we send our service people into deadly peril, there ought to be a REALLY SOLID and winnable plan or don't put them into theses crappy situations. If any lessons are to be learned from Afghanistan, that should be at the top of the list. DON'T SEND OUR SOLDIERS INTO COMBAT WITHOUT A CLEAR OBJECTIVE, FALL BACK AND EXIT.
 

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Canada has been "training" and arming through Jordan for years and years.

The 6000 being housed on bases should trained properly and shipped back to fight to to take back their home.

I could live with that.
 

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I can't help but laugh about the arguments whether it's a combat mission or not. Does it really matter what it's called?
More pc nonsense! If you don't like a word call it something else but it's still the same thing no matter what you call it.
 

darkbeaver

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An expence is what I call it, the real enemy is winter. I can't wastetime thinking about a theoretical Islamic invasion,. The climate in Nova Scotia would kill them the first day.
 

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You knuckle draggers seem to have forgotten that the planes were only there for a specified time, thats pretty much up so the argument is moot. But you mouth breathers go ahead and rant about nothing. Arseholes
 

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You knuckle draggers seem to have forgotten that the planes were only there for a specified time, thats pretty much up so the argument is moot. But you mouth breathers go ahead and rant about nothing. Arseholes