...and only someone who believes Al Bundy is the measure of life wouldn't understand that Archie Bunker ain't real either....
Canada Stands Alone On Anti-abortion
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It may continue to grow and may possibly develop into a human life several month down the road, assuming there is no miscarriage (plenty of pregnancies end in miscarriage).
A fetus is not a human being, it has a potential to develop into a human being. So of course fetus is in no position to respond, any more than a tumour is in a position to respond.
Oh, I also agree that killing is on the extreme side. I just don't believe that abortion involves killing a human being.
I feel like starting a new thread called, "Canada stands alone on Anti-Circumcision". Just so we can get a true account of what everyone is aware of when a child is powerless to a blade and how he feels when he is not given a choice.
This way we speak as living survivors, and not victims to the law without a choice.
Hmmm... sounds just like the choice abortion gives too don't it?
This way we speak as living survivors, and not victims to the law without a choice.
Hmmm... sounds just like the choice abortion gives too don't it?
That is what conservatives routinely do, Praxius, you will get used to it. When they run out of arguments, they resort to insults. Indeed, that is the sure fire way to know that your conservative adversary has ran out of arguments (and they do, many times). He changes the subject or resorts to insults.
Indeed, that is the same prolife, extreme right wing litany spouted by the killer of Dr. Tiller, the abortion providing doctor. He justified his killing of Dr. Tiller precisely on these grounds. They are sentencing Scott Roeder even now. Prolife terrorism is a big problem in USA.
So preemies aren't humans? But they are stuck in hospitals for humans, look like small versions of normally birthed babies, sound like humans, smell like humans, etc. and aren't humans?
And you missed the opportunity? Why?
Tumors respond to a lot of things. Ask your supposed wife or son. lol
And why not? I have always found the argument that abortion must not be used as a form of birth control to be inane and pointless. If somebody chooses to use it as birth control, what is the problem?
Now OK, most women wouldn’t do that. For one thing, abortion is a very messy form of birth control. For another there are some risks associated with abortion, however minute (abortion is actually less risky than delivery, since abortion involves getting rid of the fetus when it is tiny, delivery involves getting rid of it when it is fully grown).
However, if in spite of this if a woman decides to use abortion as a form of birth control, that is her choice, she has that right under our laws.
If you have to pay for it, wouldn't you rather have them use a condom or IUD? DUH
Woman decides to circumcize me again which is her choice given the exact same rights under our laws, I break her face.
The very fact that this question of when life begins comes up in a thread about abortion says a great deal about where the answer comes from. Often when that is the case, it's an ad hoc definition.
Embryo, zygote, whatever, they're alive. Aborting is killing a life form. That's an inconvenient position to argue from as an abortion rights advocate, but that's reality.
I mean if it's not a life form, then it's not a difficult decision to have the procedure done now is it? Comparisons to tumors, or finger nails, or sperm, are wayyyyyyyyyy off the mark. Way off.
Embryo, zygote, whatever, they're alive. Aborting is killing a life form. That's an inconvenient position to argue from as an abortion rights advocate, but that's reality.
I mean if it's not a life form, then it's not a difficult decision to have the procedure done now is it? Comparisons to tumors, or finger nails, or sperm, are wayyyyyyyyyy off the mark. Way off.
Nobody questions that it is life. My problem is, is it human life? Also, how do we know that life begins at conception? We don’t.
Normally we as a society are not against taking life. We take life routinely, when we slaughter meat animals, we hunt or fish etc. Why, even picking spinach or coriander on the farm is taking life. Each stem of spinach or coriander is one life. Eat an average serving of spinach and you had to destroy perhaps 10 or 12 lives for that.
So I am willing to concede that it indeed is life. My problem is why define arbitrarily that life (that too human life) begins at conception? How do we know? The fact is, we don’t that is a religious belief.
I think that had more to do with appearances than common sense, Anna, the ocean looks flat and when you project a line out to the horizon it looks straight. Actually back in the old days the scholars "knew" the world was round but if you said that out loud you could be terminated.
"Nobody questions that it is life. My problem is, is it human life?"
I'll give that 4 stars for the stupidest question today. What life would you suggest? Bumblebee, Aardvark, Dragon?
I'll give that 4 stars for the stupidest question today. What life would you suggest? Bumblebee, Aardvark, Dragon?