Canada has very little patriotism...

westmanguy

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I am not in High School, and juan do not speak for me.

I am in my 20s, finished high school, and am perfectly capable of speaking for myself.

Their is obviously alot of biased moderating in this forum, where you guys jump to support the left side of the debate. arg...
 

Tonington

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The title of the thread is Canada has very little patriotism, the backlash is a result of basically saying that we posters here have very little patriotism. That is exactly the type language which would be expected to rouse up opposition to that over reaching statement.

I have to say I'm flabbergasted by it really. Kudos for holding your ground West, I'll give you that. You must have expected to get a backlash like this? Based on your own feelings, how would you expect Americans to respond to the same statement? We're really not so different, we all express it in different ways.
 

westmanguy

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I have no problem with posts like yours Tonnington.

But people who tell me to STFU, wtf, idiotic rep points `phucks`, are the ones who ruin it.

And I don`t like people expressing me for me.
 

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The title of the thread is Canada has very little patriotism, the backlash is a result of basically saying that we posters here have very little patriotism. That is exactly the type language which would be expected to rouse up opposition to that over reaching statement.

I have to say I'm flabbergasted by it really. Kudos for holding your ground West, I'll give you that. You must have expected to get a backlash like this? Based on your own feelings, how would you expect Americans to respond to the same statement? We're really not so different, we all express it in different ways.

So you would say you consider yourself Canadian before an east coaster (that is if you're a native of the area)? Is your identity and culture (food, folk lore etc) wrapped up with the nation and not where you are located geographically? Just curious. I'm from Ontario, I have no identity. :-(
 

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So you would say you consider yourself Canadian before an east coaster (that is if you're a native of the area)? Is your identity and culture (food, folk lore etc) wrapped up with the nation and not where you are located geographically? Just curious. I'm from Ontario, I have no identity. :-(

Oh yah, Canadian first, but I do identify as a Maritimer. My familly has moved all over. The food in my familly is a mix of British Isles and East European. Mmmm, sheppard's pie and cabbage rolls.
 

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I am not in High School, and juan do not speak for me.

I am in my 20s, finished high school, and am perfectly capable of speaking for myself.

Their is obviously alot of biased moderating in this forum, where you guys jump to support the left side of the debate. arg...

Should have said "sounds like he's in high school"

Westmanguy you have provoked the ire of just about everyone on this forum. The outlandish, ignorant, things you post have gotten you on the wrong side of most here. There is no biased moderating here though there probably should be.
 

westmanguy

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juan, I have respectfully disagree, and have taken the appropriate channels to go to PM.
 

Said1

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Oh yah, Canadian first, but I do identify as a Maritimer. My familly has moved all over. The food in my familly is a mix of British Isles and East European. Mmmm, sheppard's pie and cabbage rolls.

Same here, we lived all over Canada, c'ept the East Coast. I see my self as Canadian, with no regional culture other than poutin, beaver tails and civil service jobs. I do miss buffalo burgers from the Stampede though. :lol:
 

Tonington

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Same here, we lived all over Canada, c'ept the East Coast. I see my self as Canadian, with no regional culture other than poutin, beaver tails and civil service jobs. I do miss buffalo burgers from the Stampede though. :lol:

Mmmm, it's been a long time since I had a buffalo burger, and never from the Stampede. I'll be working in Alberta this summer, I'll have to make sure to sample their buffalo burgers;)

Last time I was at the stampede, my brother and I spent $40 each to go on the ejector seat, what a rush. Fast way to spend money though...
 

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Patriotism denotes positive and supportive attitudes to a 'fatherland' (Latin patria < Greek patrida, πατρίδα), by individuals and groups. The 'fatherland' (or 'motherland') can be a region or a city, but patriotism usually applies to a nation and/or a nation-state. Patriotism covers such attitudes as: pride in its achievements and culture, the desire to preserve its character and the basis of the culture, and identification with other members of the nation. Patriotism is closely associated with nationalism, and is often used as a synonym for it. Strictly speaking, nationalism is an ideology - but it often promotes patriotic attitudes as desirable and appropriate. (Both nationalist political movements, and patriotic expression, may be negative towards other people's 'fatherland').
Patriotism has ethical connotations: it implies that the 'fatherland' (however defined) is a moral standard or moral value in itself. The expression my country right or wrong - perhaps a misquotation of the American naval officer Stephen Decatur, but also attributed to Carl Schurz - is the extreme form of this belief. Patriotism also implies that the individual should place the interests of the nation above their personal and group interests. In wartime, the sacrifice may extend to their own life. Death in battle for the fatherland is the archetype of extreme patriotism.
 

tamarin

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Regionalism is a big issue in Canada. It was given its largest boost during the Trudeau era and its cant that Old Canada wasn't on the table anymore. Trudeau saw it as his mission to break down the old French-English divide and reinvent the way the country saw itself. As a result, regions no longer trusted their reps to put local interests first and developed a sense of regional status to compensate. Has patriotism suffered? Of course. Adding salt to the wound, the vets are almost all gone now and they were once a living reminder of the price of duty and the importance of sacrifice. Once the vets are gone and reminders of a united, glorious past fade in the declining observation of singular events like Remembrance Day, the job of keeping a country together without the help of potent agents like patriotism will dog politicians.
 
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s243a

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I find it Ironic that most people that would complain about patriotism in Canada are from the west. I hope these aren’t the same people that want the west to separate or join the states. That wouldn’t be very patriotic. If we want US style indoctrination then we shouldn’t of thrown out the liberals because it was the liberals who created an add program to supposedly make people feel better about their country and tell them what it meant to be Canadian.
 

westmanguy

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The USA had the south and North regions.

Anyways I think I speak for a big sector of Canadians when I say most of us have utter hate for this nation.
 

hermanntrude

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you always think you can speak for giant bands of people (including women, all the members of cancon, and now most of canada). You're usually wrong about your assumptions of who you can speak for. Maybe you should speak for yourself for a while.