Trudeau can save the Liberals if people will vote for a party solely on the basis of a figurehead.
Can Justin Trudeau save the Liberal Party?
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Given the absurd adoration and complete willingness to ignore any and all negative impacts of PET's tenure. I think it a fair chance that Justin could be the messiah the Liberals and like minded Trudeaumanics have been praying for.
The Liberals are light on talent- Marc Garneau- Nope- Denis Coderre- Big NO and an asshole to boot. Manley a possibility but I do not think he will run.
Yes - The Cons are also light on talent as well.
So who do they have that has the Leadership qualities?
And those who vote for a candidate just because they like their leader are idiots who really shouldn't be voting, though I'll grant that makes up a large percentage of Canadians on all sides of the political spectrum and that might be a big reason for so much mediocracy in our politics. That and people voting strategically for the second-worst candidate to keep the worst one out rather than vote on principle.
to be fair though, we should not blame Justin for Pierre's decisions.
Of which the election of 1968 was a direct result, not to mention the political mayhem to follow for 16 years! :lol:
The problem is that the party seems to think he can just come in and save them. Trouble is, they will need deep restructuring to set themselves apart from the NDP and prepare for the 21st century, and, from what I see, they're not ready to do that.
Junior should bide his time until the Conservatives and the NDP have worn themselves out, just as the BC Liberals have done so, and then, with a decade's experience in, say, provincial politics, come in and save the day.
Junior should bide his time until the Conservatives and the NDP have worn themselves out, just as the BC Liberals have done so, and then, with a decade's experience in, say, provincial politics, come in and save the day.
That used to be me, many years ago.............................bring in some booze, invite some women and play some songs! :lol:
Speaking of Andrew Coyne (on another thread), he is suggesting the Liberals could form a real third party - if they can get the liberal (free-market) conservatives from Harper, along with the social liberals (libertarians). I would support such a party, because, while I am very pro-family in my life, I am not a social conservative.
This would, to me, be the real Conservative Party of the 21st Century.
This would, to me, be the real Conservative Party of the 21st Century.
At best he could save his riding.
If you read the green party Platform, it's more or less the old Progressive Conservative Party, with many Greens being red tories of sorts.
I know technically the Progressive Canadian Party is the real inheritor of the old Progressive Conservative Party, but among reasonably well-known parties, that would be the Green party for the most part.
Forum Research poll:
NDP - 37%
CPC - 30%
LPC - 22%
If Trudeau was Liberal leader:
NDP - 32%
CPC - 28%
LPC - 28%
http://forumresearch.com/forms/News...Federal_Political_Issues_(Forum_Research).pdf
NDP - 37%
CPC - 30%
LPC - 22%
If Trudeau was Liberal leader:
NDP - 32%
CPC - 28%
LPC - 28%
http://forumresearch.com/forms/News...Federal_Political_Issues_(Forum_Research).pdf
I doubt if any true blue Tory would vote for the Greens. As for Trudeau getting an edge in the polls, John Turner had favorable ratings before he got the leadership, and look what happened.
That said, it is worrying for the Liberals that their savior cannot muster enough votes to win government. Even more worrying, according to the research, is the fact that the 18-34 year demographic are less impressed with him than the older segments. If Justin wants to be PM one day, he will have to turn that around - I'd give him ten years to do so, then the magic may fade from his family name forever.
Sorta like the Kennedys, actually.
That said, it is worrying for the Liberals that their savior cannot muster enough votes to win government. Even more worrying, according to the research, is the fact that the 18-34 year demographic are less impressed with him than the older segments. If Justin wants to be PM one day, he will have to turn that around - I'd give him ten years to do so, then the magic may fade from his family name forever.
Sorta like the Kennedys, actually.
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NP swinging left??
If Justin Trudeau were the leader of the Liberals … the NDP would win the next election: poll
A Forum Research poll of Canadians shows that almost four in ten Canadians would vote for the NDP, and that the youngest voters are the least likely to approve of Justin Trudeau as Liberal leader.
This comes after Bob Rae’s pre-emptive decision to scratch himself from the cast of characters vying for the top spot in the Liberal party.
That’s put pressure on the only other Liberal with an indisputably high profile — Montreal MP Justin Trudeau, eldest son of Liberal icon Pierre Trudeau — to reconsider his initial conclusion that it’s more important to spend time with his two toddlers than to traipse around the country seeking to lead a third-party rump.
However, according to Forum’s poll, Trudeau’s leadership won’t make much of a difference, although more people say they would vote Liberal were he leader, it wouldn’t change the result: the NDP would win either way.
Justin Trudeau were the leader of the Liberals, the NDP would win the next election: poll | News | National Post
If Justin Trudeau were the leader of the Liberals … the NDP would win the next election: poll
A Forum Research poll of Canadians shows that almost four in ten Canadians would vote for the NDP, and that the youngest voters are the least likely to approve of Justin Trudeau as Liberal leader.
This comes after Bob Rae’s pre-emptive decision to scratch himself from the cast of characters vying for the top spot in the Liberal party.
That’s put pressure on the only other Liberal with an indisputably high profile — Montreal MP Justin Trudeau, eldest son of Liberal icon Pierre Trudeau — to reconsider his initial conclusion that it’s more important to spend time with his two toddlers than to traipse around the country seeking to lead a third-party rump.
However, according to Forum’s poll, Trudeau’s leadership won’t make much of a difference, although more people say they would vote Liberal were he leader, it wouldn’t change the result: the NDP would win either way.
Justin Trudeau were the leader of the Liberals, the NDP would win the next election: poll | News | National Post