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Mowich

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During the 90's after the collapse of the Conservative Party the reform party rose from those that were disgusted with the corruption of Mulroney - Yes Mulroney did some good things - but that is not relevant -

Reform and Conservatives contested as many riding as possible and Chretien rode thru the middle and won seats - Call me dense - which I can be - but that is how I see it -

The right was divided and Chretien used every tactic possible - fear - hidden agenda etc - and he won.

Now that aside - If and when Harper steps down in my opinion, only one candidate is viable - Prentice - he has the brains, the ability to work things thru - and is well respected

- Now in my opinion Peter MacKay - and yes I remember his father Elmer quite well and both are well connected to Airbus - is a flaming idiot - same as Doris Day - not viable to the Canadian public. I would in that case, Mackay as leader - vote Green - Just my thoughts though.

I understand now, your reference to the cons and reform splitting the vote. I do remember that as I had joined the Reform party shortly after it had recieved federal status. I had such hopes for that party and still feel ashamed that I voted for Day as leader instead of sticking with Preston Manning who I admire to this day. I was swayed by the argument that Preston simply would never have enough popular appeal with Canadians. I made sure that I didn't make the same mistake when they said much the same about Stephen Harper.

I don't look to see our PM stepping down anytime soon, and I for one don't want him too. He is just starting to come into his own as they say, in my opinion. Once he does decide to retire, I do agree with you about Prentice, I like him though I really don't know as much about him as I should.
 

wulfie68

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Prentice would be a hard sell though, especially on the heels of Harper, because he's another Calgarian. Lets be honest: the idea of voting for one of "those redneck Albertans" is a major factor in what held the Reform back all those years and the CPC as well. Central Canada doesn't trust anyone who doesn't reside in their bosom to sit in the big chair.
 

relic

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Well,I see now why you people kneel before harper,it's the same mentality that put bush in the white house.
 

countryboy

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Well,I see now why you people kneel before harper,it's the same mentality that put bush in the white house.

Well, it must have been a fairly widespread mentality as they both ended up at the top. There goes that bothersome democracy thing again...gettin' in the way of what the minority (vs. the majority) wants.
 

countryboy

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Except democracy in Harper's Canada means 35%.

Yep, and he IS the current Prime Minister. That's how it shakes out in a multi-party system. The arithmetic is pretty simple. Does that mean you'd want to see the number become 51% in order to become the governing party? Woo, you'd have some work cut out for yourself to get that system changed. Besides, if the other parties weren't supporting him, they'd just vote him out on a non-confidence motion, wouldn't they?

It's not just "democracy in Harper's Canada"...it's democracy in OUR Canada.
 

Spade

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Democracy is not just voting for a man who winces when he smiles. The vote is only one small aspect of "democracy."
 

countryboy

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Democracy is not just voting for a man who winces when he smiles. The vote is only one small aspect of "democracy."

Is it the system that's troubling you, or the result of the democratic vote?

And please, enlighten me as to the other aspects (beyond the vote) of democracy. A short list will do...say, the top 3 - 5 items.
 

Liberalman

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One of the advantages that the Liberal party has is Stephen Harper and his inner circle.

The Conservative party has been consistent in one area and that is when they are in majority territory another skeleton falls out of their closet.

This is why the Liberal party will win the majority because the Canadian voter will eventually lose patience with the Conservatives.

As for the NDP they will never become the government because of Jack Layton if they could pick another leader they might get more voter support.
 
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countryboy

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One of the advantages that the Liberal party has is Stephen Harper and his inner circle.

The Conservative party has been consistent in one area and that is when they are in majority territory another skeleton falls out of their closet.

This is why the Liberal party will win the majority because the Canadian voter will eventually lose patience with the Conservatives.

As for the NDP they will never become the government because of Jack Layton if they could pick another leader they might get more voter support.

Well, it's one possible scenario (The Liberals winning a majority). Anything is possible in politics.

Just for the record, all parties (and people) have skeletons in their closets, and the Liberals are no exception. Some of them are still rattling around in voters' minds, I think.
 

darkbeaver

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One of the advantages that the Liberal party has is Stephen Harper and his inner circle.

The Conservative party has been consistent in one area and that is when they are in majority territory another skeleton falls out of their closet.

This is why the Liberal party will win the majority because the Canadian voter will eventually lose patience with the Conservatives.

As for the NDP they will never become the government because of Jack Layton if they could pick another leader they might get more voter support.

No, that's the only advantage the Liberal party has. The liberals will win the election because the voters are stupid, the same way they all get in. Jack who?
 

darkbeaver

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Well, it's one possible scenario (The Liberals winning a majority). Anything is possible in politics.

Just for the record, all parties (and people) have skeletons in their closets, and the Liberals are no exception. Some of them are still rattling around in voters' minds, I think.

Are you alluding to the Liberal Zionist closet connections?
 

Spade

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Is it the system that's troubling you, or the result of the democratic vote?

And please, enlighten me as to the other aspects (beyond the vote) of democracy. A short list will do...say, the top 3 - 5 items.

Dear Grasshopper,

* Rule of law
* Minority rights
* Equality before the law
* Presumption of innocence
* Right to privacy
* Equality of opportunity
^ Freedom of expression
* Freedom of assembly
* Freedom of and from religion
* Freedom from fear
* Freedom from want
* Representation by population
* Whistleblower protection
* Freedom of the press
* Freedom from government propaganda
* Right to access of information
Shall I keep going?

Cousin Spade
 

Goober

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So the gun registry is more important than the Zionists plugging the nations closets. The gun registry was a Zionist program designed in Israel.
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