Brutality & Violence from Union Protestors

SLM

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Brotherhood, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. Cool stuff.

How very Star Trek, lol. Actually Spock is really cool now.

There is no 'I' in un...oh wait.
There is no 'i' in team. But there is a me, if you rearrange the letters. There is also an 'at' but that's not really applicable to anything.
 

gopher

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They won't believe you gopher, they laughed when we marched against free trade in the early eightys because it was plain as pigeon **** that exporting all the good jobs was the plan. It happened exactly that way and still some people want to bend to the limit. Starving their children will bring the good times somehow. I cannot understand that.


Guest editorial from the first union buster:




So much for civil discourse.



No, the unions did not engage in violence - it was a matter of right wing media distorting the facts and suckering people into believing their lies, again:


Busted! Fox News Union Fight Tape Selectively Edited (surprise! not.) - Democratic Underground

 

darkbeaver

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I didn't think you would be someone that could understand cyclical concepts.

Nope, just the way it is.

LOL, if you're in the unions. We had to pay dues just to work on union sites. We got zero from the unions.

No it's sad that union idiocy forces companies either to avoid bidding on contracts on union jobs, or having the guys pay union dues for nothing in return.

I do understand the cycle very well thank you. The banking cycle rules all however. Free trade was slow motion murder. Just watching the bodies piling up these past thirty years has been by disgusting treason of the Canadian crust. Fornicate the lot of them. You'll give them a great big kiss won't you scabby?

Guest editorial from the first union buster:








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It was to be war then as well as it is to be today. Carnage beyond belief again. They haven't packed away the good seed for no reason.
 

Bar Sinister

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Note too where all the jobs are and how much lower the cost of living is in right to work states. Having high wages with high cost of living and high unemployment isn't all that conducive to good living. I also noticed that for the most part RTW states have a better climate.

I suspect you will have to tell the highly unionized Germans and the Swedes that their high wage economies don't lead to higher living standards. World wide nations with high wage economies generally have higher living standards than those with low wage economies.

And there is a bit more to this than just lower wages. First of all, a good deal of lower living costs in low wage states is due to labour, both illegal and legal that originates in Mexico. This has two deleterious effects. One, it undermines the job market so far as native born Americans are concerned, and two, it forces many of those Americans to accept wages and working conditions that are far below the national average in order to compete.

Also, a good deal of the high unemployment in some states is due to factors of internal migration. That is to say workers often move from states with low wages and poor job opportunities to states offering better economic opportunities. However, this often has the not surprising effect of raising unemployment rates in the more prosperous states.

Your logic seems to apply that right to work legislation which forces wages and benefits down is the way to go. If so, why not go all the way and reduce wages and benefits to the same levels that exist in India? That way the US economy would enjoy India's 8% growth rate along with other fringe benefits, like shorter life expectancy, and abject poverty.

Interesting that you should mention the better climate. With that advantage why is it that many right to work states lag behind the rest of the US? Could it be because their low wage economies generate such small levels of tax revenue that many basic social services like education are below the national average?

Canada is generally regarded as a nation with a high wage economy and I suspect that the average Canadian would rather live here than in some right to work state where wages are continually undermined.
 

petros

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LOL, if you're in the unions. We had to pay dues just to work on union sites. We got zero from the unions.

No it's sad that union idiocy forces companies either to avoid bidding on contracts on union jobs, or having the guys pay union dues for nothing in return.
You got a job, on permit. You didn't want a job?

Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

No it's sad that union idiocy forces companies either to avoid bidding on contracts on union jobs, or having the guys pay union dues for nothing in return.
Who forced the desperate to work permit?
You didn't have to take the job if you didn't want to.
 

tay

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Just what we need, another breitbart...........



Unfortunately for Mr. Crowder, a look at the video broadcast on the Sean Hannity show appears to show quite clearly that he left out an important section of the footage when he put together his edit. A section of the Fox News broadcast preserved by the Web site Mediaite shows that Mr. Hannity’s producers at Fox News started the clip five seconds earlier than Mr. Crowder did. What the extra footage reveals is the man who punched Mr. Crowder being knocked to the ground seconds before and then getting up and taking a swing at the comedian.

There is one more anomaly in Mr. Crowder’s edit of the footage shot by his associates. The still frame he used for the clip’s title image on YouTube, which offers a much clearer image of the man punching him, was obviously shot by a second camera, from an entirely different angle than the rest of the footage he presented of the man hitting him. If Mr. Crowder wants to clear up the mystery of exactly what happened just before he was punched, it might make sense for him to release any footage of the incident shot from that second angle.


Steven Crowder Doesn






Language Warning




Steven Crowder: LIAR, LIAR. - YouTube
 

captain morgan

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Corporations are people. Somebody woodwinked somebody into giving them the Rights of people.

The Union structure is organized through a corporation

You can try and deflect it all you want. In the end, it is what it is.

Extortion.


Yep - one self-appointed entity demands that all the rights surrounding accessing work AND operating the business are legislated to be funneled through one single Big Brother group
 

petros

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Not according to you.

You can try and deflect it all you want. In the end, it is what it is.

Extortion.
What makes it extortion? Why didn't the company you worked for that was so desperate for work that it took a permit job suck up the pocket change it cost for your permit?
 

CDNBear

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Why did the company you worked for have to stiff you? They could have ate the cost but no, they stuck it to you instead. Why did they do that to their employees?
I already knew you couldn't defend the practice.

But thanks for the chuckles.
 

CDNBear

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It's hilarious how you anti-Union *** had to take Union work. Why didn't you work some where else?
It's hilarious watching you union guys dance around the hard questions that make you uncomfortable.

I guess that's why it's easier for companies held hostage by unions, to hire non union companies at comparable wages to do the jobs that union guys can't do as good or as fast.

Go figure, lol.

What makes it 'union work' in the first place?
Entitlement.

Ask Bear.
Good idea. He'd sooner get an honest answer from me than you.
 

Tonington

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Michigan Police Question Fox News Contributor’s ‘Punch’ Story | TPMDC

Inspector Gene Adamczyk:
“I saw Mr. Crowder’s interview on Sean Hannity and he wants to have an MMA-sanctioned fight with this individual,” he said. Crowder told Hannity that if the suspect doesn’t come forward for the MMA fight (which he said would be held for charity), Crowder would “press charges.”

Adamczyk did not sound impressed by the plan.

“You can’t leverage the law for personal gain,” he said. “Either you’re the victim, or you’re not. So if he’s the victim of an assault, and he wants to file a complaint, we will definitely investigate it.”
...
“If somebody broke into your house, wouldn’t you immediately report it to the police? If someone assaulted you or your family member wouldn’t you report it immediately to the police?” Adamczyk said. “Well, why wouldn’t you, unless there’s a personal agenda there.”
 

taxslave

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I suspect you will have to tell the highly unionized Germans and the Swedes that their high wage economies don't lead to higher living standards. World wide nations with high wage economies generally have higher living standards than those with low wage economies.

And there is a bit more to this than just lower wages. First of all, a good deal of lower living costs in low wage states is due to labour, both illegal and legal that originates in Mexico. This has two deleterious effects. One, it undermines the job market so far as native born Americans are concerned, and two, it forces many of those Americans to accept wages and working conditions that are far below the national average in order to compete.

Also, a good deal of the high unemployment in some states is due to factors of internal migration. That is to say workers often move from states with low wages and poor job opportunities to states offering better economic opportunities. However, this often has the not surprising effect of raising unemployment rates in the more prosperous states.

Your logic seems to apply that right to work legislation which forces wages and benefits down is the way to go. If so, why not go all the way and reduce wages and benefits to the same levels that exist in India? That way the US economy would enjoy India's 8% growth rate along with other fringe benefits, like shorter life expectancy, and abject poverty.

Interesting that you should mention the better climate. With that advantage why is it that many right to work states lag behind the rest of the US? Could it be because their low wage economies generate such small levels of tax revenue that many basic social services like education are below the national average?

Canada is generally regarded as a nation with a high wage economy and I suspect that the average Canadian would rather live here than in some right to work state where wages are continually undermined.

You seem to have a different definition of right to work than the rest of us. Much like the (false) one being propagated by the threatened unions. I'm not anti union , I have issues with what unions think they can do and the amount of control they have over the workforce. The companies that are trying to force wage rates down will regret it in a few years when the economy picks up and they are blessed with either their employees unionizing or having high staff turnover and uncaring staff.
Would you want the super high taxes that go along with living in such controlled countries as Germany and Sweden? I know I sure don't and neither do most of the people I know in Germany.
 

petros

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It's hilarious watching you union guys dance around the hard questions that make you uncomfortable.

I guess that's why it's easier for companies held hostage by unions, to hire non union companies at comparable wages to do the jobs that union guys can't do as good or as fast.

Go figure, lol.

Entitlement.

Good idea. He'd sooner get an honest answer from me than you.
The conspiracy theory question is ridiculous.

Companies held hostage? They have choices.

Entilement? Nahhh it's called owed contract obligations. You worked permit and chose to work permit and paid permit dues for inclusion in that contract. Your employers were paid an equivelant of the bennys the same as paid to Union members. Did you get that from them or did they stick it up your furry rump as a big ol' "atta boy" at job's end? You should have had a contract that ensure that gets paid to you.