Breast-Feeding Past Infancy?

SirJosephPorter

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What if it's serving the mother's interests?

Again, if it is not harming the child, who cares? If studies conclusively show that it is harmful to the child, something could be done about it. Failing that, I take the view that the mother knows how best to raise her child and should be left alone to do it.
 

Said1

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Again, if it is not harming the child, who cares? If studies conclusively show that it is harmful to the child, something could be done about it. Failing that, I take the view that the mother knows how best to raise her child and should be left alone to do it.

A mother acting out pathological impulses is harmful, even if the child is conditioned to like it. Not that I think extended breastfeeding is altogether bad, it's just that a child who could potentially be in grade one, should not need to be comforted with a breast. Studies have shown that children often stop breast feeding only to start again in stressful situations such as the birth of a sibling ie regression.
 

Francis2004

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Again, if it is not harming the child, who cares? If studies conclusively show that it is harmful to the child, something could be done about it. Failing that, I take the view that the mother knows how best to raise her child and should be left alone to do it.

Perhaps SirJoseph, but what in my case where I feel my son's health is being damaged ? Did you read my post below ?

Being in favour of it I am made to feel against the procedure and certainly something I cannot do for my son myself as a single father.. When does it become a useful weapon and not a child best interest ?
 

talloola

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There is so little common sense that to call it that is a misnomer.

I know a few moms who breastfed for as long as the child wanted or circumstances made it difficult. My ex breastfed our child for two years. As far as I know that was not detrimental at all. I have known women that did so for five years and did OK.

I also know moms who could not breastfeed at all and their kids were sickly and emotionally challenged, unruly and nasty. So, although not a scientific study, I will support the practice and right of women who choose a prolonged breastfeeding period.

In my opinion two years, is about it, but of course that depends on individuals,
but after that, i would like to see parent consult physician, and get some help
to learn how to separate. Don't agree that it is 'normal' to continue and keep
going, a time comes when it begins to be a emotional crutch, or 'whatever',
and help is needed.
That is my stand, yours can be whatever you want it to be, that is your business.
No hangups, good parenting, good common sense.
I guess the only way those types of parents can let go, is, if they get pregnant
again, and boom, get off my breast, must make room for another, or maybe
they each get one breast.;-)
 

SirJosephPorter

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Don't agree that it is 'normal' to continue and keep
going,

Talloola, ‘normal’ is relative, what is normal to you may not be normal to me. At one time, being black was not considered to be normal, woman working outside the home was not considered normal (at least in the middle class). Even today, many people think that homosexuality is not normal; it is an abomination against God.

So I don’t think ‘normal’ should be the criteria when deciding if something is beneficial or harmful.
 

Said1

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Perhaps SirJoseph, but what in my case where I feel my son's health is being damaged ? Did you read my post below ?

Being in favour of it I am made to feel against the procedure and certainly something I cannot do for my son myself as a single father.. When does it become a useful weapon and not a child best interest ?

I'm sure your son will eventually stop on his own. If it's possible to take him for more over night visits I would since that might help the weening process. You don't want to turn something like that into a control issue between you and your wife.
 

karrie

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A few thoughts on the subject.

First of all. Breasts are not just for feeding infants. I am an avid supporter of breastfeeding, but, I don't kid myself about the nature and purpose of breasts. Breasts are partly sexual in nature, part of our dance of mate selection. The size and nature of human breasts is fairly unique in the animal kingdom... we have way more breast than is required to feed a child, and they never really go away once the kid's done needing them. To say that's all they're for is a bit of a lie. They are also sexual in nature. Like it or not.

Second of all. Nursing is partly a cultural concern. Different cultures have different guidelines, set according to cultural values. Because our children are often done staying at home with us by the age of 4, we start teaching them about privacy of the body at a fairly young age, and modesty is something our culture instills at a much younger age than others. Thus, nursing until 4 in other countries is only relevant if they have the same standards of modesty and parental attachment at said age.

Third. The most damaging thing you can do for your child's emotional development is to make them 'weird' in the eyes of their peers. This mother has ensured that. Whatever parenting attachment benefits there are, that'll outweigh it for sure.

Fourth. I nursed later than is socially conventional. I nursed my daughter straight through from her birth until she was about 2 years old. In that time I got pregnant again and had my son. I nursed both in tandem for months, and only quit with my son when medical issues completely unrelated made me have to quit due to medication. BUT. I acknowledged cultural norms by making it clear after about 18 mnths old that my daughter was not to nurse in public. She knew it was a quiet, at home, comfort thing.
 

Francis2004

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I'm sure your son will eventually stop on his own. If it's possible to take him for more over night visits I would since that might help the weening process. You don't want to turn something like that into a control issue between you and your wife.

I have him two days a week and have had him as long as a whole week and a half.. But it always goes back to the same thing..
 

Nuggler

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8O.......Picture a mom walking into a grade school cafeteria and yelling::

"George, get over here and latch onto this. Put that Pepsi away!!!

Yepper, instant personna non grata.

Even worse if it's a university cafeteria.............although I've been there, and I could see it happening.........:lol:

Most men I've met and consider close buddies still like to......."nurse"

:laughing6:
 

talloola

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Don't agree that it is 'normal' to continue and keep
going,

Talloola, ‘normal’ is relative, what is normal to you may not be normal to me. At one time, being black was not considered to be normal, woman working outside the home was not considered normal (at least in the middle class). Even today, many people think that homosexuality is not normal; it is an abomination against God.

So I don’t think ‘normal’ should be the criteria when deciding if something is beneficial or harmful.

I understand all that, jeesh,' I' consider it 'not normal', that is my opinion.
 

Cliffy

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Most men I've met and consider close buddies still like to......."nurse"

Nuggler,Most men spend the first nine months trying to escape the womb and the rest of their lives trying to get back in.They never seem give up their hunger for "nursing".
 

hermanntrude

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Apparently the average age of weaning worldwide is 4 years. Admittedly many of those people dont have much choice i guess but it goes to show that the US and canada and the Uk and so on are once again thinking they're the normal ones when they just arent. My little one is 16 months and shows no signs of stopping. She says "boob" or "swig" if she wants some.
 

#juan

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When our children were born and nursing, we lived in a subdivision in Delta where there were dozens of new moms and hundreds of children. We got to know most of these people through municipal and school functions. For a time my wife, a registered public health nurse, was the school nurse. I can tell you that very few children in that group were breast fed beyond an age of eighteen months, and virtually none past two years old. There was one woman who was still nursing a five year old but my wife thought this was due mainly, to the emotional problems of that woman. I can't see any reason to carry on nursing past two years of age.....By two, the kid has a mouth full of teeth and can eat just about anything the parents eat.
 

talloola

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Apparently the average age of weaning worldwide is 4 years. Admittedly many of those people dont have much choice i guess but it goes to show that the US and canada and the Uk and so on are once again thinking they're the normal ones when they just arent. My little one is 16 months and shows no signs of stopping. She says "boob" or "swig" if she wants some.

the value of mother's milk is wonderful, and I would 'assume' that mothers feeding their children at 4 years of age, are those who don't have access to
the abundance of food that we have, and of course there are exceptions, so
I am generalizing.
I don't think I am the 'normal' one, but I do have an opinion, and I am not
arrogant in my opinion, just observant.
Thank you mothers of the world who 'have' to feed their children at four
years of age, you can keep your children alive and healthy, as long as you
can keep yourself alive and healthy.
 

Unforgiven

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You know, probably if everyone took a little time out each afternoon for some boob action, there wouldn't be all this fussin and a fuedin. 8O
 

Unforgiven

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what does that 'even' mean, could you translate please.

Even means equal.
German ok?

Sie wissen wahrscheinlich, wenn jeder ein wenig Zeit hat sich jeden Nachmittag für einige boob Maßnahme, es würde nicht alle dieser fussin und fuedin.