Boy dies from flesh eating disease!

SLM

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The problem is who gets to decide when and how society gets to override someone else's choices. That is why I compare it to JW's refusal to have transfusions. Granted it becomes more complicated when a child is involved.

Exactly. Had this been an adult, it would be an entirely different story altogether. But there is a provision within the criminal code that requires parents provide the necessities of life to a child. I would think this would qualify.
 

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The problem is who gets to decide when and how society gets to override someone else's choices. That is why I compare it to JW's refusal to have transfusions. Granted it becomes more complicated when a child is involved.

If they want to refuse treatment or transfusions for themselves thats totally fine. The kid didnt get a choice. He is dead because of his parents beliefs. If a parent makes a decision which puts a kids life in danger that decision should be overridden. Parents cant (and shouldnt) be allowed to do whatever they want with their kids. Children are not property.
 

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Funny, if this had been some crazy Christian family using prayer and faith to try and heal the kid, the holistic herbal hippies would be freaking right out.

Bloody stupidity. Absolutely cruel and unusual punishment by an idiot who should never have been a parent to begin with.
 

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If they want to refuse treatment or transfusions for themselves thats totally fine. The kid didnt get a choice. He is dead because of his parents beliefs. If a parent makes a decision which puts a kids life in danger that decision should be overridden. Parents cant (and shouldnt) be allowed to do whatever they want with their kids. Children are not property.

Agreed. But we still have to have a limit on when society or government can override a parent's decision. If we reversed this and say a kid died because the parent chose to go to a medical doctor instead of a Naturopath would you still feel the same about it?
Another thing to ponder on is at what point do we draw the line in medical intervention.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Agreed. But we still have to have a limit on when society or government can override a parent's decision. If we reversed this and say a kid died because the parent chose to go to a medical doctor instead of a Naturopath would you still feel the same about it?
Another thing to ponder on is at what point do we draw the line in medical intervention.

When a child's life is at risk. Period.
 

SLM

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It is not that simple. I consider going to a pill pusher putting my health/life at risk but am fine with my Naturopath. I would rather go to a vet than a doctor. Far safer.

But you are an adult and can make these decisions for yourself. A child cannot.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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It is not that simple. I consider going to a pill pusher putting my health/life at risk but am fine with my Naturopath. I would rather go to a vet than a doctor. Far safer.

That's your choice. You want to put a minors life at risk that's another matter altogether.
 

taxslave

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That's your choice. You want to put a minors life at risk that's another matter altogether.

I consider taking a child to a pill pusher putting life at risk needlessly. Especially if that child dies as a result . Unless it is something like setting broken bones. This is why we have to be careful of when and how we intrude on others beliefs. I'm not saying it is always wrong but it can be.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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I consider taking a child to a pill pusher putting life at risk needlessly. Especially if that child dies as a result . Unless it is something like setting broken bones. This is why we have to be careful of when and how we intrude on others beliefs. I'm not saying it is always wrong but it can be.

Then you shouldn't have kids.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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And who decides when that is?

I don't know, maybe when he's been dying of the flesh eating disease for ten days. Or maybe when he isn't conscious anymore. Or maybe when his brain cooks off because some stupid ignoramus such as yourself thinks they know better.
 

DaSleeper

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You're an idiot. ....

There. You happy now lol
Lord,?Forgive him...... he simply has no idea