Best Western Movie Ever Made....

VanIsle

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Shadowshiv, I think the MARLON BRANDO film you mean is called "Viva Zapata."
Brando portrayed the Mexican revolutionary, Zapata, and someone else (Alan Reed, I think--the voice of Fred Flintstone, actually) played Villa, which was a supporting role. A great film about Villa is "Viva Villa," from the 1930's, an oldie but goodie, starring Wallace Beery.

The western Brando made when he was older that you're thinking of may be "The Missouri Breaks." Jack Nicholson was the costar.

The spaghetti westerns are not really my style (though Eastwood is good--I like the Dirty harry movies). One thing I don't like is that they don't look like the American west. The Spanish locations (I think) look kinda weird.

I guess I like the older ones. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is one of my all-time favorites. Also anything with John Wayne, esp. The Searchers, Three Godfathers, El Dorado, Rio Bravo, Red River. Also like How The West Was Won.
And North To Alaska is a great comedy western (or "northern," really!)...
What are you saying? You don't like "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly"? It was a great show.
 

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Another good one, was "The Sundowners", with Robert Mitchum, Deborah Kerr and I believer Ustinoff- but that's going back quite a few years probably early 60s.
I thought I was the only person who remembered "The Sundowners". Great show. I also loved watching Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, and Pale Rider. We watched all of Gunsmoke again on TV too. One of the best more modern day westerns was "Tombstone" with Val Kilmer and Kurt Russel. Not a show today that compares with any of them. Jimmy Stewart was in some of the old ones too. Another favourite actor of mine.
 

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My other favourite[besides The Searchers] is an Italian western with Henry Fonda as an evil gunslinger..Once Upon A Time In The West.:smile:
 

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I thought I was the only person who remembered "The Sundowners". Great show. I also loved watching Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, and Pale Rider. We watched all of Gunsmoke again on TV too. One of the best more modern day westerns was "Tombstone" with Val Kilmer and Kurt Russel. Not a show today that compares with any of them. Jimmy Stewart was in some of the old ones too. Another favourite actor of mine.

Yep, Jimmy was a class actor and a class person.
 

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What are you saying? You don't like "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly"? It was a great show.

The good the bad and the ugly was a great show, but I got real tired of the music. The same with his other spaghetti westerns, the music and the staring
for me, took away from the movies and made them a little corny.
Sergio Leone the director/producer, did all of them the same.
 

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lol I thought most of Eastwood's westerns were corny. Interesting character development in GB&U, but the character got tiresome after A Fistful of $. Man with no name ...... jeeez. And it gets tiring when his movies always have all the women (and girls, as in Pale Rider) falling all over him. Most of Eastwood's movie seem to have the male figure humoring or patronizing women like, "You are pretty and not capable of being smart, seeing that things go right, etc. I will do it because I am a real man". Gets old fast. He's getting better with age, though. Same with John Wayne's acting. Was good in old age but in the 30s it sucked. lol

Silverado was a hoot, except it had Kevin Costner in it.
 

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lol I thought most of Eastwood's westerns were corny. Interesting character development in GB&U, but the character got tiresome after A Fistful of $. Man with no name ...... jeeez. And it gets tiring when his movies always have all the women (and girls, as in Pale Rider) falling all over him. Most of Eastwood's movie seem to have the male figure humoring or patronizing women like, "You are pretty and not capable of being smart, seeing that things go right, etc. I will do it because I am a real man". Gets old fast. He's getting better with age, though. Same with John Wayne's acting. Was good in old age but in the 30s it sucked. lol

Silverado was a hoot, except it had Kevin Costner in it.

All of the old movies were patronizing to women, that's the way people thought
in those days, women were home in the kitchen, didn't work, dependent 100%
and the movies followed that, and emphasized it, maybe that was good, as
when we watched those movies it was apparant that women were helpless,
and probably helped in bringing an end to it, as we didn't like watching ourselves in positions where we 'always' had to be looked after, and helped
out of every situation. The movies emphasized that and took it too far.
Many women even behaved that way 'intentially' as they thought it was
attractive to men, and made them look very feminine. todays movies actually go too far the other way, have women in positions of
much physical aggression, which is not a natural trait for women.
We can be very strong without being aggressive at all, I think it's called
diplomatic, wise, understanding and independent.
 

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I know, Tal. That's what I implied when I said smart. lol

Aggression is only a tool to be used wisely or foolishly. My wife is only an inch shorter than me and has a tendency to call obnoxious men "Peewee" when she thinks they are being out-of-line. lol She would loved to have had a conversation with Eastwood after Pale Rider. :D
 

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lol I thought most of Eastwood's westerns were corny. Interesting character development in GB&U, but the character got tiresome after A Fistful of $. Man with no name ...... jeeez. And it gets tiring when his movies always have all the women (and girls, as in Pale Rider) falling all over him. Most of Eastwood's movie seem to have the male figure humoring or patronizing women like, "You are pretty and not capable of being smart, seeing that things go right, etc. I will do it because I am a real man". Gets old fast. He's getting better with age, though. Same with John Wayne's acting. Was good in old age but in the 30s it sucked. lol

Silverado was a hoot, except it had Kevin Costner in it.

Yep, Eastwood is over rated as an actor.
 

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I know, Tal. That's what I implied when I said smart. lol

Aggression is only a tool to be used wisely or foolishly. My wife is only an inch shorter than me and has a tendency to call obnoxious men "Peewee" when she thinks they are being out-of-line. lol She would loved to have had a conversation with Eastwood after Pale Rider. :D

very interesting!!!! ummmhmmmm, she seems like my kind of person.
 

talloola

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lol I thought most of Eastwood's westerns were corny.
Silverado was a hoot, except it had Kevin Costner in it.

I loved eastwoods westerns, didn't like his non westerns.
I loved Kevin Costner in Silverado, he was very young, and cheeky,
and so athletic and very efficient on the horse.
I've like all of his movies, some, only because he was in them.
My daughter can't stand him, thinks he is so boring, but I like
the simplicity of his acting, and his voice, seems very realistic to me.
A little bit like Gary Cooper was, but I like Costner better, probably
cause the movies are newer and not so hokey.
 

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One glaring absence is the famous "The Tin Star":

The Tin Star (1957)


 

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By the way, throughout his entire life, Tom Mix abhored violence. Whenever he made public speeches (especially to children in church or Boy Scout groups) he condemned violence and always taught kids to be good citizens.