BC Liberals make gains, but BC NDP still lead polls in Lower Mainland

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In the end, better off to have just one Party running the show even if they aren't your first choice


What we have in B.C. now is going to be very short lived. Weaver may be OK as a party leader, the other two are definitely past their "best before date". I had a bit of an inkling that hideous and obscene property transfer tax would eventually kill Christy.
 

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Yes that's true fixed dates are no panacea..

I should be clearer about fix election dates. I mean fixed dates like they have in the US where the election is always the same day and it can't be called early. In Canada a few jurisdictions, including BC and the federal government, have fixed dates 4 years after the previous election, but the election can be called early.

This is open to abuse by the ruling party, but it also allows the government to be held accountable if they lose the confidence of the legislature. I think it's a good balance of power, which the American system for all its over balances of power severely lacks.

The fixed date also created the situation we had in 2015 with a prolonged federal campaign. Usually campaigns are a month long and that seems good enough. In the US the campaign with the preliminaries can last for over a year.

The result of that campaign was the NDP lost a lot of their early support as it gave the anti-Harper vote time to get used to Justin Trudeau. If you hate Trudeau, you can thank the longer campaign for him being PM. Then again, you might think Tom Mulcair would have been worse.
 

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The result of that campaign was the NDP lost a lot of their early support as it gave the anti-Harper vote time to get used to Justin Trudeau. If you hate Trudeau, you can thank the longer campaign for him being PM. Then again, you might think Tom Mulcair would have been worse.


Nah, in spite of being a Dipper, Tom has some back bone! :)
 

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He used to be a provincial Liberal minister in Quebec, under Jean Charest, who used to be the federal PC leader. Quebec is weird like that.

I haven't seen a lot of evidence for Trudeau having no backbone. That criticism just seems to fit into the narrative that he's young, inexperienced and flaky rich pretty boy. Honestly, what has he done that showed he lacked courage or resolve?
 

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He used to be a provincial Liberal minister in Quebec, under Jean Charest, who used to be the federal PC leader. Quebec is weird like that.

I haven't seen a lot of evidence for Trudeau having no backbone. That criticism just seems to fit into the narrative that he's young, inexperienced and flaky rich pretty boy. Honestly, what has he done that showed he lacked courage or resolve?

What has he done period? Besides borrow money to give to other countries? ANd Bombardier.
 

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What has he done period? Besides borrow money to give to other countries? ANd Bombardier.


Not to mention all this infrastructure that's supposed to be happening. :) :) :)

He used to be a provincial Liberal minister in Quebec, under Jean Charest, who used to be the federal PC leader. Quebec is weird like that.

I haven't seen a lot of evidence for Trudeau having no backbone. That criticism just seems to fit into the narrative that he's young, inexperienced and flaky rich pretty boy. Honestly, what has he done that showed he lacked courage or resolve?


I twigged on to the fact he has no back bone the first day he was in power and assigning his cabinet. Did he assign the positions to the best qualified people? Noooooooooooo, he assigned 50% to men and 50% to women because it was 2015. What would he have done if there was some trans gendered people in the mix? The guy's a flake, much like his old man!
 

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Most British Columbians Want Greens to Support NDP in Legislature


In the online survey of a representative sample of British Columbians, 51% of residents think the BC Greens should support the BC New Democrats if a majority government cannot be formed, while 38% think the Greens should back the BC Liberals.

Three-in-five British Columbians who voted for the BC Green Party in this month’s provincial election (62%) are in favour of the Greens supporting the NDP, while just one-in-four (23%) would prefer to back the BC Liberals.

British Columbians were asked about six different scenarios for the next provincial government and

Most British Columbians Want Greens to Support NDP in Legislature | Insights West
 

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I twigged on to the fact he has no back bone the first day he was in power and assigning his cabinet. Did he assign the positions to the best qualified people? Noooooooooooo, he assigned 50% to men and 50% to women because it was 2015. What would he have done if there was some trans gendered people in the mix? The guy's a flake, much like his old man!

What does that have to do with him not having a backbone?

Most British Columbians Want Greens to Support NDP in Legislature


In the online survey of a representative sample of British Columbians, 51% of residents think the BC Greens should support the BC New Democrats if a majority government cannot be formed, while 38% think the Greens should back the BC Liberals.

Three-in-five British Columbians who voted for the BC Green Party in this month’s provincial election (62%) are in favour of the Greens supporting the NDP, while just one-in-four (23%) would prefer to back the BC Liberals.

British Columbians were asked about six different scenarios for the next provincial government and

Most British Columbians Want Greens to Support NDP in Legislature | Insights West

That fits with the idea that Green voters are left leaning and that the NDP are losing votes to them.
 

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What does that have to do with him not having a backbone?


"Backbone" in this instance is metaphor. One sign of a such a condition might might be the refusal to match appropriate reasons to actions. W.T.F. has the date got to do with criteria for matching up job candidates?
 

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"Backbone" in this instance is metaphor. One sign of a such a condition might might be the refusal to match appropriate reasons to actions. W.T.F. has the date got to do with criteria for matching up job candidates?

Yes thank you, I realize backbone is a metaphor, but you seem to have no idea what the metaphor means.
 

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Yes thank you, I realize backbone is a metaphor, but you seem to have no idea what the metaphor means.


I think you might be wrong. It covers a lot of territory for sure but part of it might be to have the gumption, guts and sagacity to do things for the right reason. In this case wanting the most qualified person to do the job and most people might find that the date has very little to do with it. :)
 

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I think you might be wrong. It covers a lot of territory for sure but part of it might be to have the gumption, guts and sagacity to do things for the right reason. In this case wanting the most qualified person to do the job and most people might find that the date has very little to do with it. :)

Honestly, I'm tired of this. You're so incredibly obtuse about it and I don't even care. I'm not going to hold your hand to the basic understanding of the words you use. Figure it out yourself or just continue with your irrational dislike of Trudeau.

Look, I don't like Trudeau. I would never vote for him or his party. I don't need or want to defend him, but your reasons for disliking him are just silly and you can't even articulate them intelligibly.

Incidentally, under your ridiculous definition of "backbone" your dislike of Trudeau proves you have no backbone. If backbone means not having the right reasons for doing things, and you don't have any good reason to dislike Trudeau, then you don't have a backbone.
 

JLM

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Honestly, I'm tired of this. You're so incredibly obtuse about it and I don't even care. I'm not going to hold your hand to the basic understanding of the words you use. Figure it out yourself or just continue with your irrational dislike of Trudeau.

Look, I don't like Trudeau. I would never vote for him or his party. I don't need or want to defend him, but your reasons for disliking him are just silly and you can't even articulate them intelligibly.

Incidentally, under your ridiculous definition of "backbone" your dislike of Trudeau proves you have no backbone. If backbone means not having the right reasons for doing things, and you don't have any good reason to dislike Trudeau, then you don't have a backbone.


Fair enough, that's your opinion and you're fully entitled to it, but that doesn't make it any more valid than mine. (We're right in the middle of moving so I don't have too much time for discussion anyway) Have a nice day!