I'd feel more confident in believing this if it wasn't "confirmed" by a politician. Did Sen. Nelson dive down to see for himself or is he just rumor spreading?
B.P.'s Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill Thread (it's all here).....
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True, but if people are that interested they'd listen to more objective sources for their info.
Senator Nelson: The BP Well May Have Lost Structural Integrity Beneath the Sea Floor
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Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL): Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.
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This makes sense. For 50 days now the inside of the drill pipe and well casing have been sandblasted with gravel and rock being spewed upward by thousands of tons of pressure of oil and gas. The well casing and drill pipe have to have eroded and breakthough was inevitable.
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Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL): Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.
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This makes sense. For 50 days now the inside of the drill pipe and well casing have been sandblasted with gravel and rock being spewed upward by thousands of tons of pressure of oil and gas. The well casing and drill pipe have to have eroded and breakthough was inevitable.
If oil has been coming out of the pipe and casing, how did the gravel and sand get in there in order to sandblast them? I think Mssr. Webmaster is a goof.
It never fails, something happens that wakes up the world and not long after, the crazies start making all kinds of wacko comments.
I don't see BP going bankrupt, it is fundamentally a very sound company. What will happen is, if the share price drops sufficiently, it may be a prime target for takeover.
Same as Union Carbide was taken over, after their disaster in India (when 15000 people died due to the toxic cloud released in the air).
Anybody know if all the pipe in the ground was magna-fluxed after the Haitian quake before being put back into service? If not look for those ones to fail also.
The cement plus is most likely still in place, the pipe is naturally fractured above the plug so the oil is rising in the rock layers, 1000 more feet and it won't need any casing to enter the Gulf waters.
The cement plus is most likely still in place, the pipe is naturally fractured above the plug so the oil is rising in the rock layers, 1000 more feet and it won't need any casing to enter the Gulf waters.
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so the walls of this big reservoir that the oil is pouring out of is what....nice and smooth? how do you imagine the interior of this to be. my idea would be for it to be a huge presurized cavity filled with this crap that is pouring out. does anyone have any idea what is left after a well runs dry or what the interior of an empty oil cavity looks like?
it may be smooth to start with, but its had a fair bit of "ware n tear" over the last couple of months.....could be starting to break down...... just my thorts
Devastation: You Can Smell The Oil From A Helicopter And Birds Are Frying!
Wednesday, 09 June 2010 06:47
YouTube - Devastation: You Can Smell The Oil From A Helicopter And Birds Are Frying!
That is the whole idea of bankruptcy, getting away from something you cannot afford to fix. The cleanup from the Exxon spill was done for the most part before the court cases were settled. Some people never did get compensation.
when was the last time the gov/media told the us the whole truth about anything?
Gulf oil leak may be bigger than BP says
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Gee, you think?
Gulf oil leak may be bigger than BP says
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Gee, you think?
Sounds plausible to me Stretch, actually kind of what you'd expect. If green cheese started pouring out then I'd be a little concerned......................:lol::lol::lol: (Guess this really isn't a joking matter)
BP and White House Continue Cover-up of Oil Spill
Wednesday, 09 June 2010 06:05
'As BP’s latest efforts to stem the flow of oil from the leaking well in the Gulf of Mexico continue to face difficulties, there are new details emerging about attempts by BP and the Obama administration to cover up the true size of the disaster.
It has been revealed that the US Department of the Interior intentionally misrepresented the results of a recent survey of the spill by federal scientists in an attempt to minimize the scope of the disaster.'
Read more: BP and White House Continue Cover-up of Oil Spill
Wednesday, 09 June 2010 06:05
'As BP’s latest efforts to stem the flow of oil from the leaking well in the Gulf of Mexico continue to face difficulties, there are new details emerging about attempts by BP and the Obama administration to cover up the true size of the disaster.
It has been revealed that the US Department of the Interior intentionally misrepresented the results of a recent survey of the spill by federal scientists in an attempt to minimize the scope of the disaster.'
Read more: BP and White House Continue Cover-up of Oil Spill
The liability does not go on for decades. Currently BP is doing much more than they are legally required. If they are taken over, the new company won't feel obligated to do any such thing, they will do only what is legally required. Legally, the liability isn't all that big (I think there is a 75 million $ cap, BP has already spent much more than that). Only liability would be the law suits, and those will be settled in years, rather than in decades.
In a few years the picture will become clearer. If the stock prive is down substantially, they probably wil be taken over.
Haiti, lat. and long.:19º 00' N and 72º 25' W
Deepwater Horizon, lat. and long.:
28° 44.20′ N and 88° 23.23′ W
and is not near a fault line.
The magnafluxing process: after the part is sprayed with a magnetic particle solution, an electro-magnet is passed over the part. The field causes the small particles in the solution to align themselves with that magnetic field. If there are no fissures or fractures, the particles remain static.
At a mile down? How would you get the particles to attach to the pipe?
I didn't say that. I am just wondering how sand and gravel would get into the pipe in order to sandblast the pipe to pieces in the first place. It would have to force its way against the pressure of the oil coming out, right? How do you imagine the interior of this to be. my idea would be for it to be a huge presurized cavity filled with this crap that is pouring out.[/quote]Then they'd have been replacing the pipe frequently to keep it from leaking right? If your oilpan in your car has guck in the oil sitting in it, even though the oil pump causes turbulence, most of the guck in the oil sticks to the bottom of the oil pan. The oil filter catches the smallest particles not heavy enough to find nooks and crannies.
I would imagine the cavity is refilled with water at pretty much the same rate the oil is exited.Water is heavier than oil and is a lot less viscous so stuff would settle a lot easier in water than in oil.
After a period of running, I would bet most of the particluates would be either settled into nooks and crannies in relatively calm spots, or else already squirted out.
What $75M cap? Link?
19º 00' N and 72º 25' W
Deepwater Horizon, lat. and long.:
28° 44.20′ N and 88° 23.23′ W
and is not near a fault line.
The magnafluxing process: after the part is sprayed with a magnetic particle solution, an electro-magnet is passed over the part. The field causes the small particles in the solution to align themselves with that magnetic field. If there are no fissures or fractures, the particles remain static.
At a mile down? How would you get the particles to attach to the pipe?
I used Haiti because the data I have only goes back 30 days. One a lot smaller and closer would be more of a real danger that a big one 1,400 miles away. Is there any sort of protocol they use for nearby quakes, one well blown our is understandable, having several starting to leak need something in common. A fracture in the pipe above their frac zone (cement plug). I'm not aware of too many forces that damage a pipe other than movement of the rock that surrounds the pipe. Their drill logs would show where the first pockets of gas are, oil would be down a little further.
The $75 M question.
http://washingtonindependent.com/86489/obama-backs-lifting-75-million-liability-cap-for-bp