B.C. judge rules father guilty of “family violence” for calling trans son “she”

MHz

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No, that was my personal summation of you and your total value to the future of the human race..

If I was to do my shortcomings we would be here for awhile. If a history of them was covered we would be here for the best part of a lifetime.
 

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The American Medical Association (2013) has ruled that pedophilia is not always a mental disorder.
It can be a sexual orientation.
Just saying......maybe we shouldn't blindly trust these people.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/01/dsm-pedophilia-mental-disorder-paraphilia_n_4184878.html

Paedophilia is clearly a mental disorder and I can empathize with any persoh who may suffer from it: but that still doesn't excuse him from molesting someone. If he does, he should not be allowed out of jail without first accepting castration followed by at least a year of therapy followed by the recommendation of at least two specialists for release. If he doesn't meet those criteria, he shoulnd't be allowed out.

Now that said, I do think that society should show more compassion for paedophiles (which I distinguish from molesters, paedophilia describing a state of mind, molestation an action). A paedophile should feel comfortable seeking help without shame or fear since his state of mind might not be his fault. But again, that does not excuse molestation and molesters should receive a sufficient punishment to ensure the least risk of recidivism.

And by the way, I don't distinguish between male and female molesters. A femal molester should get oophorectomy just as a male should get gonadectomy.
 
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If he does, he should not be allowed out of jail without first accepting castration followed by at least a year of therapy followed by the recommendation of at least two specialists for release. If he doesn't meet those criteria, he shoulnd't be allowed out.
With consequences like that how much education will be available so people can head off a future like that? Keeping it hidden hasn't resulted in it happening less and less.
 

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Regardless of what? Are you privy to the family conversations? Or are you going by a biased news article against the father?

Oh I'm sure he understands what it is to be a parent, do condescending snowflakes?


If you need to ask "regardless", then I wonder if you even have children to understand that.

I'm not privy to family convo's, neither are you.



I'm going by the same news you've read (if we're talking about the point of the OP). I don't see how it's biased.

As for understanding what it is to be a parent... obviously not if he prefers his child dead vs alive.
 

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With consequences like that how much education will be available so people can head off a future like that? Keeping it hidden hasn't resulted in it happening less and less.

What do you mean? As I've said: I have nothing against paedophiles. My problem is with molesters. if they molest, we need to ensure they don't do it again.
 
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My problem is with molesters.
With consequences like that how much education will be available so people can head off a future like that? Keeping it hidden hasn't resulted in it happening less and less.
 

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My problem is with molesters.
With consequences like that how much education will be available so people can head off a future like that? Keeping it hidden hasn't resulted in it happening less and less.

What education? Therapy? I actually agree that pedophiles are too harshly judged and we need to educate the public that not all pedophiles are molesters. I still don't get what you're trying to say.
 
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What's pedophilia have to do with Trans people?

Two totally different subjects and have no connection what so ever.


Oh absolutely.


I was not trying to compare the two, outside of the bare minimum connection that both are deviant, and both are being legitimized.


One (pedophilia) is obviously much more dangerous to others than is the other.


Both are dangerous to society.


Both are being legitimized by the medical elite, so damned wrapped up in their own intellect that they can't deal with reality.


George Orwell said it best; Some things are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them
 

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Oh absolutely.
I was not trying to compare the two, outside of the bare minimum connection that both are deviant, and both are being legitimized.
One (pedophilia) is obviously much more dangerous to others than is the other.
Both are dangerous to society.
Both are being legitimized by the medical elite, so damned wrapped up in their own intellect that they can't deal with reality.
George Orwell said it best; Some things are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them
Well said. I even know of one homosexual who refused to engage in homosexual activity simply because he morally disagreed with it. I can only imagine how much hell he must have gone through having to face accusations of internalized hate, etc. As far as I could tell, he didn't hate himself one bit: it was just a moral stance that he'd taken. And homosexuality doesn't even come close to the harms of the other two described above.
 
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Sorry, I'll rephrase myself. Pedophilia per se is only potentially harmful as long as it doesn't cross into molestation.
 

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Well said. I even know of one homoesexual who refused to engage in homosexual activity simply because he morally disagreed with it. I can only imagine how much hell he must have gone through having to face accusations of internalized hate, etc. As far as I could tell, he didn't hate himself one bit: it was just a moral stance that he'd taken. And homosexuality doesn't even come close to the harms of the other two described above.


Yep.


My brother is celibate, and has been for decades. He has a PhD in Divinity, teaches at a seminary, and is homosexual..........which clashes with his belief system.
 

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What education? Therapy? I actually agree that pedophiles are too harshly judged and we need to educate the public that not all pedophiles are molesters. I still don't get what you're trying to say.
I'm in the same boat. Orphans and old people belong together and it isn't for sex with adults that have issues with picking up adults to spend their time with. Kiddies don't have sex with other kiddies, the adult is trying to join that group so they should give up adult activities rather than force them onto kids who are still kids.

How fuking hard is that to comprehend?? Orgy Island was not about sex with children, it was about blackmailing people who had sex with children.

Grow the fuk up, . . . your Highness/Majesty or whatever you answer to these days.
 

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If you need to ask "regardless", then I wonder if you even have children to understand that.
I'm not privy to family convo's, neither are you.
I'm going by the same news you've read (if we're talking about the point of the OP). I don't see how it's biased.
As for understanding what it is to be a parent... obviously not if he prefers his child dead vs alive.

I just wrote a post about my wife and youngest daughter, and I've written about her a couple of times. She is a true tomboy in every sense of the word, at times I tease her as my youngest son, but she is a girl and lets you know about it. My message to her is I will support her in anything she wants to do, and if she wants to work in what is traditionally seen as a man's world have at 'er, she has every right to do so as a human and as a woman and I will fight for her if any discrimination rears it's ugly head.

Exactly reacting to the news coverage which is written to support whom?

Is the comment recorded or witnessed? I still say someone is using this poor girl in the name of enlightenment and painting the father as a Neanderthal, did he say something that he regrets probably, who doesn't when dealing with Teenagers? Was he looking out for the best interest of his daughter? I believe so, same as every father should, like I said IMO there is more than 1 force in action to convince her to be something they want her/him to be.
 

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Grow the fuk up, . . . your Highness/Majesty or whatever you answer to these days.


You might try being a little more respectful. Everyone has a right to an opinion be it right or wrong and everyone has a right to be stupid, but meanwhile show respect!
 

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Uh, no.
Because the moment the balls drop, male changes start which makes it MUCH harder for a Trans girl to pass when she's older, which is part of the dysphoria. The pause in puberty actually gives the child a chance to really live as close to a girl as possible, when they are older and able to understand the social and personal issues that come with being Trans, to see if they are truly willing to go through with it.
So are you one of those "Trannies can't use women's bathrooms" types? Is the reason you're against blockers is so that kids can grow up and still be recognized as Trans, instead of likely appearing more feminine or masculine and thus avoiding the predatory and violent behavior of people who have no problem beating up Trans people for just using the bathroom?
How would he know he's a trans without dropping?
 

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Yep.
My brother is celibate, and has been for decades. He has a PhD in Divinity, teaches at a seminary, and is homosexual..........which clashes with his belief system.
I've never seen bouncers at a Church keeping gays out.