Army: 12 dead in 31 wounded shooting attacks at Fort Hood base in Texas

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''Shooting someone doesn't make them a hero/heroine. ''


She was injured in the line of duty. Yet, she still stopped a maniac from doing more harm. That's heroism as far as I am concerned.

Luckily, the Republican party and its friends have not succeeded in forcing women to wear burqas and walk barefooted or she would not have been there to help the victims.
 

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This clearly demonstrates that western society has let its enemies walk among us in
the general population and our institutions. We are on a collision course in history and its time we faced the facts and quit pussy footing. There are some measures
we can enact in this country. the war measures act being one. Round up those who are suspects. If we find some engaged in suspicious activity deport them.
Places of social gathering and prayer, that preach defined hatred or insurrection
should be shut down and the perps, arrested.
Personally I am against what happened in Iraq and in favor of what we are doing in
Afghanistan. We cannot have dialogue with people who have only religious dogma
to sustain them. I say its time to givem, hell no holes barred, both in the theatres
of war and in our communities. I am fed up with people coming here and then
engaging in acts that are not in keeping with the society in which we live.
 

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Yet we in the West have no qualms about sending our people to those countries to carry out similar acts of barbarity against their people, innocent men, women and children alike.
Then, when evidence of such acts are leaked out, our gov. run media, whenever possible, conveniently play down the events `they, the victims, were in the wrong place at the wrong time`.. if not sweep the entire incident under the rug...out of sight, out of mind.

This appeasing tactic may be acceptable for us here in the West but does nothing to calm the rage famlies of those slaughtered by our hands, feel.

Americans should not be so dam naive and expect more of the same on their soil in the future.
After all, `all is fair in love and war`, no?

This clearly demonstrates that western society has let its enemies walk among us in
the general population and our institutions. We are on a collision course in history and its time we faced the facts and quit pussy footing. There are some measures
we can enact in this country. the war measures act being one. Round up those who are suspects. If we find some engaged in suspicious activity deport them.
Places of social gathering and prayer, that preach defined hatred or insurrection
should be shut down and the perps, arrested.
Personally I am against what happened in Iraq and in favor of what we are doing in
Afghanistan. We cannot have dialogue with people who have only religious dogma
to sustain them. I say its time to givem, hell no holes barred, both in the theatres
of war and in our communities. I am fed up with people coming here and then
engaging in acts that are not in keeping with the society in which we live.
 
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Luckily, the Republican party and its friends have not succeeded in forcing women to wear burqas or she would not have been there to help the victims.
This is what many Muslims want, not the Republicans.
 

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Reps would prefer if women were uneducated, barefoot, fussing around in the kitchen, and spewing babies. The clothing doesn't really matter.
 

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'''This is what many Muslims want, not the Republicans. '''



Republicans, not Muslims, voted sexist McDonnell as new governor in Virginia.

You must admit that some old Democrats voted that way as well. He could not have won without their votes..

This is the nature of politics :-|
 

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Yet we in the West have no qualms about sending our people to those countries to carry out similar acts of barbarity against their people, innocent men, women and children alike.
Then, when evidence of such acts are leaked out, our gov. run media, whenever possible, conveniently play down the events `they, the victims, were in the wrong place at the wrong time`.. if not sweep the entire incident under the rug...out of sight, out of mind.

This appeasing tactic may be acceptable for us here in the West but does nothing to calm the rage famlies of those slaughtered by our hands, feel.

Americans should not be so dam naive and expect more of the same on their soil in the future.
After all, `all is fair in love and war`, no?


JBeee - Ever wonder why the Muslim extremists never bother the Russians???? You should have the answer for that now, shouldn't you?
 

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JBeee - Ever wonder why the Muslim extremists never bother the Russians???? You should have the answer for that now, shouldn't you?
I noticed that, too. They also don't seem to harass China much. lol
 

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I noticed that, too. They also don't seem to harass China much. lol
AnnaGRussians do not go after the little guy - they go after people way up the food chain - find them and kill them - seems to work. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885872492&pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFullPresident Valdimir Putin has ordered Russian special services to hunt down the killers of four Russian hostages in Iraq, news agencies reported Wednesday.


"The president has ordered the special forces to take all necessary measures to find and destroy the criminals who killed Russian diplomats in Iraq," news agencies said, citing the Kremlin press service.The order follows Monday's confirmation by the Foreign Ministry that four Russians working at the embassy in Iraq had been killed; they were seized in early .Russia has strongly opposed the US-led military campaign in Iraq.


</SPAN>http://www.isn.ethz.ch/isn/Current-Affairs/Security-Watch/Detail/?ots591=4888CAA0-B3DB-1461-98B9-E20E7B9C13D4&lng=en&id=52068Russian president Vladimir Putin last week ordered his country's secret services to seek and destroy the killers of four Russian diplomats abducted in Iraq. The move is not only designed to divert public anger over the slaying, but signals that the Kremlin is not in the least bit shy about extrajudicial executions of suspected terrorists and radicals abroad."The president has ordered the special forces to take all necessary measures to find and destroy the criminals who killed Russian diplomats in Iraq," the Kremlin press service said.Putin made the statements during a meeting in Moscow with Saudi Arabia's Prince Salman bin Abdul-Aziz Al Saud. Russia would be "grateful to all its friends for any information on the criminals who killed our citizens in Iraq, Putin told the Saudi prince.Putin's order came two days after the Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed that four Russians diplomats working at the embassy in Iraq had been killed. Mujahedin Shura Council, an al-Qaida linked group, claimed responsibility for their abduction 3 June and subsequent execution. The group had demanded that the Kremlin pull its troops out of Chechnya in exchange for freeing the diplomats.
 

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JBeee - Ever wonder why the Muslim extremists never bother the Russians???? You should have the answer for that now, shouldn't you?

I know what you are getting at, but you are way off in left field. Russia has its own problems with Islamists.....even after Afghanistan....

Ever hear of Chechnya?? The Besian school attack?? The Moscow Theatre hostage situation?? Just to name a couple of the dozens of attacks by Muslim extremists inside Russia or on Russians.....
 

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Anna...I kinda fancy myself as Liberal but wouldn`t mind you fussing around in my kitchen, barefoot..heck clothing optional for that matter!!;-)

Reps would prefer if women were uneducated, barefoot, fussing around in the kitchen, and spewing babies. The clothing doesn't really matter.
 

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I know what you are getting at, but you are way off in left field. Russia has its own problems with Islamists.....even after Afghanistan....

Ever hear of Chechnya?? The Besian school attack?? The Moscow Theatre hostage situation?? Just to name a couple of the dozens of attacks by Muslim extremists inside Russia or on Russians.....
ColpyI am familiar with them all - look at Chechnya now - Ruled by the son of a former guerilla - Different scenario - I am referring to how many Russian are not bothered by anyone in the Mid East - reason - Russia gets even - Not comparable -
 

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ColpyI am familiar with them all - look at Chechnya now - Ruled by the son of a former guerilla - Different scenario - I am referring to how many Russian are not bothered by anyone in the Mid East - reason - Russia gets even - Not comparable -

Perhaps not....but I don't see the connection between the Russian tendency to kill'em all and let God sort'em out and a mass shooting by an American citizen.....born in the USA.

BTW, did you hear the FBI checked out the shooter last year.....discovered he had connections with an imam suspected of al-queda connections.....and gave him a PASS anyway?????

OOOPSS!!!!!

People forget that at the root of it, Americans are commited to freedom......so much so they would not, or could not, act in the face of a clear threat.

Thankfully, these guys are our allies, not the other side.... :)
 

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Fort Hood mass killer Nidal Hasan to die by firing squad
The former U.S. Army major and psychiatrist killed 13 people and injured more than 30 others in a 2009 massacre in Texas

Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Oct 06, 2026 • Last updated 16 hours ago • 3 minute read
This April 9, 2010 file photo released by the Bell County Sheriffs Department, shows US Major Nidal Hasan after being moved from Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio to Bell County Jail in Belton, Texas.
This April 9, 2010 file photo released by the Bell County Sheriff's Department shows U.S. Major Nidal Hasan after being moved from Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio to Bell County Jail in Belton, Texas. Photo by Police handout

OTTAWA — The former U.S. Army officer-turned-jihadist who killed 13 people and injured more than 30 others in a 2009 mass shooting will die by firing squad.


On Tuesday, the White House confirmed that U.S. President Donald Trump has signed the approvals condemning 56-year-old Nidal Malik Hasan, a former Army major and psychiatrist, to die by firing squad.

That would make him the first American service member to be executed since 1961 and the first to die by firing squad since the Second World War.

Hasan admitted attacks were a religious duty
Hasan, an American-born Palestinian, opened fire on U.S. troops preparing for deployment at Fort Hood in Texas on Nov. 5, 2009.

Shouting “allahu akbar” while firing a handgun at his victims, Hasan went on a 10-minute rampage, targeting those in uniform and reportedly sparing civilians.

He was brought down by police officers, but not before leaving 13 people dead and 30 more injured.

Injuries sustained in the attack left Hasan paralyzed from the waist down.


During his 2013 court martial, Hasan admitted his admiration for radical imam Anwar al-Awlaki, a key al-Qaeda figure who served at a mosque in Falls Church, Virginia, and had documented connections with several Sept. 11 hijackers.

Al-Awlaki would later die in a 2011 U.S. drone strike in Yemen.

Hasan refused to offer a defence during his court martial, claiming he’d “switched sides” in what he described as an “illegal war,” and carried out the shooting as a means to protect Taliban leaders and Muslims in Afghanistan from soldiers in the process of deploying overseas.

He was found guilty and sentenced to death on Aug. 28, 2013, and is serving his time at the United States Disciplinary Barracks (USDB) in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.

The date of his execution has yet to be set.



How would the execution work?
The U.S. military recognizes two methods of execution — firing squads and hangings.


A total of 10 service members have been executed since the Uniform Code of Military Justice came into effect in 1951.

The last was Pvt. John A. Bennett, who was hanged in April 1961 for rape and attempted murder.

Military executions in the United States are strictly regulated.

Hasan’s execution will take place in either a military bunker or specialized death chamber, outfitted with a standard shooting-range backstop.

Under the command of an officer, the execution party will consist of up to eight military members qualified in marksmanship.

The rifles are typically loaded out of sight of the shooters, with at least one loaded with a blank round before being handed out to the execution party.

This provides a degree of psychological ambiguity, as no individual shooter could determine with certainty whether they were the one who fired the lethal shot.

As the wheelchair-bound Hasan cannot be tied to a post and face death on his feet, he will likely be secured to a chair for his execution.


Military protocol dictates that Hasan will die dressed in a plain military uniform stripped of unit patches, rank insignia and medals.

After an opportunity to offer last words, and joined by a chaplain, Hasan will have his head covered by a hood and a target placed over his heart.

The lethal shots will be delivered from about 15 paces — around 10 metres — from the condemned.

Death by firing squad is rare in the United States, with only six such executions carried out in civilian prisons since 1976 — three of which took place last year alone.

Five states — Utah, Oklahoma, Mississippi, South Carolina and Idaho — offer firing squad as an option.

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