The reason the feds don't expell them is political, they're pandering to the hispanic vote. The reason they're considering amnesty is also political, they want votes from those new citizens.
How can they be pandering to Hispanic vote? The Hispanics whom they would expel are in USA illegally and cannot vote anyway. So where does pandering for votes come in?
Absolute balderdash. Illegals can be hired for less than minimum wage and don't have to be paid benefits. Legals (white or hispanic) would gladly do the same jobs but not for those wages, plus, employers often pick illegals over legals for the cost savings.
Quite so, so they do fill a niche. Rather than harassing the poor immigrant worker who is only trying to earn a living, government should go after the businesses. Is Arizona doing that? I doubt it. It is much easier to pander to the racists and go after Hispanics, rather than go after the businesses.
According to the law, the police officer is to check the ID if suspicious that there could be illegal aliens, only if said officer is already involved in another illegal matter. If a car is stopped for speeding then the officer may have grounds to check ID, or may not. He cannot stop the car just to check immigration status.
If a van is pulled over for speeding and it has a white driver and 15 hispanics, that would constitute reasonable grounds for suspicion, since almost all illegal immigrants are hispanic. If the van contained 15 blond blue eyed people would the officer suspect them of being illegal immigrants? No. Is that racial discrimination? No, it's common sense. If the US had a problem with millions of illegal Swedes coming across the border then it would raise suspicions. Would that be racist? No more than if they were all hispanics.
And what happens if 8 are Hispanics and 7 are white? Police officer will selectively ask the Hispanics for identification, if he has cause for suspicion. I cannot conceive any circumstance under which he will be suspicions of whites as being in the country illegally.
I have made this point before. In a van full of people, brown skins will be separated from others and harassed. The law will lead to racial profiling in a big way, regardless of what it says in the law.
And again I come back to the point, what is the necessity of the law, if crime is at an all time low? The suspicion is that the only aim of the law is to harass and persecute Hispanics. At least that is what Hispanics feel, and I cannot see any other reason for the law.
And therefore, your issue with this law is what? Someone has the authority to investigate something, and decide what, if anything, to do about it. That's an issue for you, I gather.
My issue with the law is that I don't see any reason for the law. And conservatives here cannot explain why the law was passed either. Hispanics feel that the purpose of the law was simply to harass Hispanics, it was racism and xenophobia, and i am inclined to agree.
At the beginning of the discussion I was wiling to give Republicans the benefit of doubt. OK, what they are doing in Arizona won’t work, but at least they were trying to address an important issue, rampant crime in Arizona. The law may have racist undertones but at least it was trying to address a serious issue.
But when I learned that crime in Arizona is the lowest since 1967, then the purpose behind the law has to be racism, I cannot see any other reason why else such a law (which is sure to target only brown skinned people) was passed. The law does not have racist undertones, but has racist overtones.
