Are the people who advocate "going green" today just a bunch of bloody hypocrites?

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Cheaper maybe,but in the end i'd guess the cost is the same,plus the lightbulds "i think" ends in landfills.

But people don't think about the communal good. They think about the good of themselves or their company. The cheapest cost is most benificial to the company but less good for the commune. People are greedy. Human nature rule #1.
 

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But people don't think about the communal good. They think about the good of themselves or their company. The cheapest cost is most benificial to the company but less good for the commune. People are greedy. Human nature rule #1.
There should be a limit on how much money one makes,in a lifetime its impossible to use billions of dollars on ONE person.
 

petros

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What are you complaing about? A lightbulb is cheaper than a can of Coke.

Some people make alcohol and plastics from the oils which come from the food source but some use the fiber from leaves and stocks. Make sense to me to use the fiber. There is no need to grow crops just for fiber when it is a waste product already.
Check out the soil feeding "waste" as you put it being shot through the chopper in the harvester.

Claas Lexion 580R CAT Combine - YouTube

And you want to starve the soil? Crazy greens.

Here is how they do it in India.

Wheat harvesting in India - YouTube
 

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petros

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There is no GMO wheat.
 

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Re: Are the people who advocate "going green" today just a bunch of bloody hypocrites

Back in the "good 'ol days" everything was greener cause there were way less people mindlessly consuming the planet.

exactly..

Consuming more resources..

.. I think the Catholic Church is responsible for much of this explosion in 3rd world countries where they do not want to advocate safe sex, so many children are being born into poverty in Mexico, Central America and South America, all are Catholic states.

These are the very countries with the largest expansion of human population, next to Muslim countries..

List of countries by population growth rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

petros

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Kids are an asset. That why they have so many in 3rd world counties. It has nothing to do with the RC. That's just plain loony.
 

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Kids are an asset. That why they have so many in 3rd world counties. It has nothing to do with the RC. That's just plain loony.

The Catholic Church, which opposes birth control for any reason, and second, ironically, are hand-wringing liberals who see unchecked population growth as merely a "personal reproductive right."
 

petros

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Catholic women in poor countries can't count to 28?
 

karrie

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Are the people who advocate 'going green' today just hypocrites?

Hmmm. I find it interesting that the thread attempts to insinuate that elderly folks weren't the ones who originally switched to plastic bags. Or that they weren't the ones who bought bigger and bigger houses and had bigger and bigger families. Or put in air conditioning, and moved into sprawling suburbs where there IS no such thing as a corner store to walk to. Or bought cars for hubby AND wife once they'd come into a money and could afford it.

I find it interesting that the OP attempts to dissect out 'those responsible' with some imagined argument in the grocery store. If you look at it critically, in this imagined argument, no one would really argue that the clerk is wrong... but the clerk isn't wrong because the older generation were paragons of green virtue... oh hell no... he's simply wrong because when it comes to conservation, to environmental protection, to preserving our resources, there is no generation that gets all the blame. One set up the system trying to give their kids more than they had, the rest flourish in that system. It's a society, not a collection of distinctly different lives.
 

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Once upon a time we used the plastic grocery bags for garbage bags. Now we take our own "green" shopping bag to the store and buy a roll of plastic garbage bags. How is this helping?


A lot of (not all for sure) of those plastic shopping bags are biodegradable . Still, they do go in the landfill. Just don't hang around for 1000 years or so.

Some landfills are capturing the methane and burning it for electricity. There's one in Ottawa, and one more looking for the go ahead there also. I dunno shyte bout how it works, but it sounds good.

If the methane from the bullshyte on parliament hill could be captured and used to generate electricity, it could possible power the lights, factories, and electric cars across the country.................no particular party..........all of the buggers.
 

lone wolf

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Going green is one thing. Going back to naked, without fire and living in caves is another ... especially without the e-mouth (pooter)
 

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All that means is that they become small bits of plastic. They're still bits of plastic.

So if they're not plastic to begin with, the break up into plastic after?
 

Nuggler

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That was a pretty foolish and thoughtless assault, Nuggler. You achieved nothing but to show that you gave no consideration to what was said or could not comprehend something quite clear and simple.

"Back in the day," the average carbon footprint was a fraction of what it is now and, as many of the posts have indicated, much of what has replaced some things, are wasteful, energy consuming and unnecessary.

In those times, most people did think in terms of sustainability, and practised it. Built in onsolence, as some have since talked about, would have been anathema.

But no need for more. I don't know what got into you.


read it again, then read it again. it'll sink in sooner or later. And my opinion is as good, probably better, than yours. there you go again talking about back in the day.

"In those times, most people did think in terms of sustainability, and practised it."" Yes yes of course. right this way to the rubber room.

They practiced organic farming until "modern" methods came along. Why? Because that's the only thing they knew. Their methods added to the severity of the dust bowl................note..........ADDED TO.

Towns and cities ran their waste directly to rivers and lakes.

back in the day

right.

All that means is that they become small bits of plastic. They're still bits of plastic.

Hey, I didn't make it up. Rolls of bags are sold as biodegradable. So then they're not plastic? I dunno. What would they be? Maybe the bag producers are lying to us. Can't see a corporation doing that.

I'm in total agreement with the proposition that plastic bags get chopped up and last probably forever, drifting around in the water, or strangling earthworms in a landfill.

Add this to the stuff going to float over from Japan, and the land mass of BC could double................land mess?
 

Cliffy

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Check out the soil feeding "waste" as you put it being shot through the chopper in the harvester.

Claas Lexion 580R CAT Combine - YouTube
That puts a whole new twist on crop dusting.

And, no, I haven't been out on the prairies for 40 years. BTW, hemp is a nitrogen fixer, annually renewable and can produce food, oil, superior plastic, fabric, paper and building materials out of one crop. Why are we not growing it commercially?