Judging by the recent land claims settlements that have happened in BC it is hard to say who actually won. Kind of like Japan and Germany after WWII.
Applying Affirmative Action
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Judging by the recent land claims settlements that have happened in BC it is hard to say who actually won. Kind of like Japan and Germany after WWII.
''you believe all the crap about Justice Clarence Thomas''
Had you bothered to read it you would have known that Thomas openly admitted to having benefited from Affirmative Action.
Had you bothered to read it you would have known that Thomas openly admitted to having benefited from Affirmative Action.
We need to define what exactly is affirmative action. To help the disadvantaged get an education or become involved in a sport is not the same as giving them a position just because they are disadvantaged.
To me affirmative action would be to help a disadvantaged person get to the point where they could compete on merit for a job or spot on a professional team. Not give them a position because they are disadvantaged or discriminated against.
Exactly, the B.C. Gov't back in the 90s under Glen Clark embarked on a program (I almost puked) where we were supposed to hire visual minorities (Indians, blind, deaf, retarded, crippled) where ever possible and where their qualifications matched the run of the mill contestants they were to take preference. So of course being white, of sound mind and athletic put one at a disadvantage. But then Glen Clark knew no bounds where idiocy was concerned. :smile:
The only time I might support affirmative action might be as a tie-breaker between a visible minority and and visible majority in an election. And even then I'm not sure how much I support it.
I don't go for tokenism. If the person is a best fit for the job, that's the one who should get it. Reverse discrimination is still discrimination.
Exactly, the best qualified for the skills and knowledge should prevail, all neutral issues, such as race, colour, religion should be totally blanked out. :smile:
What Clark was trying to do was even the playing field. Obviously jlm doesn't like that idea. As can be seen by jlm's attitude towards "indians, blind, and tards, it doesn't come down to qualifications in the end. For the minority to get the job, he/she MUST be better qualified all the way around. If it was between 2 with the same qualification, the white male got the job.
What attitude did I express toward "Indians, blind and tards" except to state they are visual minorities? :-(
Personally, I found the video ridiculous. To compare educational affirmative action to sports is dumb. Socioeconomic hardship hasn't EVER been proven to have a link to lowering athletic ability, however, it has been shown to cause academic set backs. But, that being said, I think affirmative action is ridiculous in that it targets race, not socioeconomic background. There are plenty of white people who could use a leg up out of their slums too.
You are right. It would have been far far better to keep them all impoverished on welfare so you can complain about all the welfare bums
But still no worse than keeping people without minority issues out of the work force and hence making "welfare bums" out of them.
Methinks you are the one who "don't see it", I said NOTHING derogatory about any minorities. :smile:
In the late seventies, the Socreds had a policy that all government jobs had to go to people on welfare. I was living at the time in the bush and was dead against being on welfare or EI, so even though I was an experienced draftsman, when Highways had a job opening for a draftsman, they could not give me the job unless I was on welfare. I went to welfare and asked if they could issue me food stamps just so I could get the job and they refused. The whole thing was beyond stupid and it was not the NDP policy, it was the right wing Social Discredit policy. So, JLM, Clark was just following policy, not creating it. Those policies were created by bureaucrats in a blind act of being PC and feathering their nest (ie: creating and maintaining their own bureaucratic empires).
How often are two applicants completely equal? In the rare situation (one in a billion) then a coin should be flipped, otherwise we are into reverse discrimination.