Have you seen the leadership of Israel threaten on numerous ocassion to wipe Israel from the map - use Nukes - destroy isreal - They are maniacs and you would fit in well -
Another War in the Works
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By your rational, you should be arguing in favor of giving Iranians nuclear weapons in order to avoid war. As you observed mutual assured destruction is a powerful deterrent to war. The US invasion of Iraq and recent Israeli violence in Gaza are examples of what happens to people who can't defend themselves.
Iran's leadership made no such statement despite media hype to the contrary. What they called for was an end to the Zionist state of Israel, not a massacre or mass slaughter as per popular misinformation. Iran has frequently called for a peaceful settlement of the Israel/Palestine conflict by referendum and hinted that they would recognize Israel if that was the will of the people.
Speaking of being "wiped off the map", have you seen a map of Palestine lately?
Iran is hostile to Zionist State of Israel and arms their adversaries. Their behavior is similar to the US, which arms the Zionist State of Israel and allows Zionists to continue wiping Palestine off the map. That makes the US and Iran responsible for the resulting violence. I imagine that if the US agreed to stop arming the Zionists and insisted that Zionists stop their ethnic cleansing activity, Iran would agree to stop arming Palestinians who resist Zionist oppression and injustice.
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I suspect that for now Iran plans to remain compliant with the NPT. That would put them at a threshold where they would remain about six months to a year away from putting nukes on long range missiles. If that's as far as they go, then Israel and the US will maintain their advantage.
But I expect Iran would end their cooperation with the IAEA and begin developing nuclear weapons in secret if they were attacked.
No nation would deliberately start a nuclear war with the US or Israel, but Iran would need a nuclear deterrent to successfully fight a conventional war with these nations.
For now, I expect Iran is busy trying to develop a conventional defensive capability to resist a US led invasion or deter an Israeli attack. Very likely Iran has plans to build secret facilities where they could develop nuclear weapons without detection while fighting a conventional war. That would explain their refusal to sign the Comprehensive Safeguards Agreements yet sign the Voluntary Protocols.
I can understand why Iran's nuclear program makes the US and Israel nervous. I can also understand why US and Israeli actions motivate Iran to prepare itself for an Israeli attack and a US invasion.
But I expect Iran would end their cooperation with the IAEA and begin developing nuclear weapons in secret if they were attacked.
No nation would deliberately start a nuclear war with the US or Israel, but Iran would need a nuclear deterrent to successfully fight a conventional war with these nations.
For now, I expect Iran is busy trying to develop a conventional defensive capability to resist a US led invasion or deter an Israeli attack. Very likely Iran has plans to build secret facilities where they could develop nuclear weapons without detection while fighting a conventional war. That would explain their refusal to sign the Comprehensive Safeguards Agreements yet sign the Voluntary Protocols.
I can understand why Iran's nuclear program makes the US and Israel nervous. I can also understand why US and Israeli actions motivate Iran to prepare itself for an Israeli attack and a US invasion.
This is a bad joke.
If iran was trying to "remain compliant with the NPT", why were they hiding a nuclear facility for enriching uranium?????
Do not expect Iran to act rationally, the nation is led by lunatics.
There will be NO US invasion, nor should there be. Any attack should be done by Israel, with behind-the-scenes US help, if necessary. One would hope it would NOT be necessary, as it would immediately destroy the strengthening calls of the Iranian people for freedom.......
I trust Israel will do all that is necessary to defend itself....and no more.
You miss the point entirely....Iran can not be allowed to have nuclear weapons simply because they are our enemies. Israel is allowed to have nuclear weapons because they are a outpost of western civilization, and therefore our friends.
"Fair" has nothing whatsoever to do with it.
Thank God Hamas has no nukes.....although they may get them if Iran does.....
AND....there are worse things than war.....not many....but there are worse things.
As per the Voluntary Protocols Iran is only required to report the facility's existence to the IAEA when it is six months away from completion. An empty building still under construction is hardly a threat. If it was, then every empty building under construction in Iran is also a threat. Any one of them could one day be used used as part of Iran's nuclear program.
C'mon Colpy, get a grip on yourself.
The real threat here is Israel starting an unprovoked war with Iran and dragging everyone else into it, including Canada. First they have to convince gullible people that Iran has an active nuclear weapon program without any evidence. Looks like they have convinced you already. How rational is that?
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Explain to me why Israel would start an unprovoked war with one of the few countries in the ME that could actually stand up to Israel????
You understand that Israel depends on a citizen army.....that any war requiring ground forces that lasts more than a very few weeks can cripple the nation's economy? It is a nation of less than 6 million people............
Why, pray tell, would Israel put in jeopardy its high tech fighters in an extremely risky long-range attack.....without reason?
They set Saddam's nuclear program back decades....Thank God! (and much to the chagrin of France!!!!!)
Do you think Israel is led by suicidal idiots?????
Get a grip!!!!
EAO - Take your head out of your behinarse- 1 nuke - Small kilo-tonnage over Israel would make the country uninhabitable - Past Iranian leaders have stated that the use of Nukes was OK. 7 1/2 million refugees and that does not include the fallout for other countries.
EAO - Now that you have read my previous post and to do so would entail removing your head from your rear end - AKA - your arse. Some more info for you
RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAL
RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
TEHRAN 14 Dec. (IPS) One of Iran’s most influential ruling cleric called Friday on the Muslim states to use nuclear weapon against Israel, assuring them that while such an attack would annihilate Israel, it would cost them "damages only".
"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in Tehran.
Analysts said not only Mr. Hashemi-Rafsanjani’s speech was the strongest against Israel, but also this is the first time that a prominent leader of the Islamic Republic openly suggests the use of nuclear weapon against the Jewish State.
"It seems that Mr. Hashemi-Rafsanjani is forgetting that due to the present intertwinement of Israel and Palestine, the destruction of the Jewish State would also means the mass killing of Palestinian population as well", observed one Iranian commentator.
With all the high tech, highly trained special forces, why hasn't anyone gone in and taken out the trouble makers. Bump off a few radical clerics, slip out the back door and peole might stop strapping on explosives. If the Catholic church could wipe out the Knights Templar in one night back in the dark ages, you would think that today wiping out all the agitators in one night would be a piece of cake.
Not necessarily, but there were a lot of immigrants from many lands over many thousands of years that added to the blood lines. But then, my understanding of the origins of man are very different from most.
I'm an old peacenic from way back. But I also realize that if peace should break out tomorrow, the global economy would collapse faster than the twin towers. Not that it would affect me at all, but the world would be sent into a tail spin that might take centuries to recover from (or until the next war was declared). As long as there are rich and poor people and countries, there will be war. I don't support it but I am resigned that it will be.
Cliffy - Africa- Asia - India -Pakistan - he next big war will be over water. It has already begun.
Have any of you given any thought where the fallout and Jew dust would settle If Israel is nuked?
Ever think that maybe just maybe the real joke of this lie is that the entire fresh water supply for the entire Middle East would be forever deemed toxic for a very long long time.
Simply put Israel can't be nuked. Not now and not in the future. Perhaps if multiple nations were being attacked at once yeah but not on it's own as a terrorist plot.
How well do you think Canada's penis and Toronto would fair if Canada nuked Detroit?
When the US and Iran stop playing the fear game and your gasoline mysteriously increases by 20 cents a litre maybe it will click in that you are being played?
Nah. It's far too easy to hate and spew violent sociopathic gibberish about some made up boogieman than face reality.
Ever think that maybe just maybe the real joke of this lie is that the entire fresh water supply for the entire Middle East would be forever deemed toxic for a very long long time.
Simply put Israel can't be nuked. Not now and not in the future. Perhaps if multiple nations were being attacked at once yeah but not on it's own as a terrorist plot.
How well do you think Canada's penis and Toronto would fair if Canada nuked Detroit?
When the US and Iran stop playing the fear game and your gasoline mysteriously increases by 20 cents a litre maybe it will click in that you are being played?
Nah. It's far too easy to hate and spew violent sociopathic gibberish about some made up boogieman than face reality.
Because war and rebuilding after war involves huge profits.
Name one war in history that was a financial flop for big business or banking cartels.
Their religion is money not Heeb, Muzzie or Chrissy.